creating a secondary chord progression for a song

mangold · Post by **mangold** » Wed Jan 05, 2005 8:54 pm

filmdude100cms wrote:
praisedave wrote:if you gonna post the suggestion atleast explain it
sooo you want me to explain jazz theory to this guy when he can just get jazz chords off the net, and no be confused?

give him a link then

UNCcrombie · Post by **UNCcrombie** » Wed Jan 05, 2005 9:04 pm

filmdude100cms wrote:
praisedave wrote:if you gonna post the suggestion atleast explain it
sooo you want me to explain jazz theory to this guy when he can just get jazz chords off the net, and no be confused?

i don't get confused easily, but there's no need to explain jazz theory to me when i dont have a full understanding of regular theory

gumbomadness wrote:ill make a diagram for everyone in a few minutes.

thanks

gumbomadness · Post by **gumbomadness** » Wed Jan 05, 2005 9:58 pm

UNCcrombie wrote:
filmdude100cms wrote:
praisedave wrote:if you gonna post the suggestion atleast explain it
sooo you want me to explain jazz theory to this guy when he can just get jazz chords off the net, and no be confused?
i don't get confused easily, but there's no need to explain jazz theory to me when i dont have a full understanding of regular theory

gumbomadness wrote:ill make a diagram for everyone in a few minutes.
thanks

you dont need to know squat for my diagram. ^_^ dont worry

Tranman66 · Post by **Tranman66** » Wed Jan 05, 2005 10:02 pm

gumbomadness wrote:
UNCcrombie wrote:
filmdude100cms wrote:
praisedave wrote:if you gonna post the suggestion atleast explain it
sooo you want me to explain jazz theory to this guy when he can just get jazz chords off the net, and no be confused?
i don't get confused easily, but there's no need to explain jazz theory to me when i dont have a full understanding of regular theory

gumbomadness wrote:ill make a diagram for everyone in a few minutes.
thanks
you dont need to know squat for my diagram. ^_^ dont worry

good idea

gumbomadness · Post by **gumbomadness** » Wed Jan 05, 2005 10:07 pm

POSTED THE DIAGRAM

a1075dd63aa12 · Post by **a1075dd63aa12** » Thu Jan 06, 2005 2:41 am

triads and barre chords, barre chords are thicker, triads are softer

UNCcrombie · Post by **UNCcrombie** » Thu Jan 06, 2005 12:37 pm

is the diagram on your site, if so where?

UNCcrombie · Post by **UNCcrombie** » Thu Jan 06, 2005 12:39 pm

nevermind

Easy E · Post by **Easy E** » Thu Jan 06, 2005 1:46 pm

Ive got a question, when you want to make a key change, is it best to change the key to one of the major chords in the original key, or do key changes have no set rules?

gumbomadness · Post by **gumbomadness** » Thu Jan 06, 2005 2:06 pm

eze3484 wrote:Ive got a question, when you want to make a key change, is it best to change the key to one of the major chords in the original key, or do key changes have no set rules?

It sounds smoother if you change it with a major chord that both keyshave in common. ^_^...
but there are no rules anyway.

Easy E · Post by **Easy E** » Thu Jan 06, 2005 2:35 pm

so smoother with a relative minor for the most part?

gumbomadness · Post by **gumbomadness** » Thu Jan 06, 2005 2:39 pm

eze3484 wrote:so smoother with a relative minor for the most part?

Oh.. ya, that would definitley work...
like D > Bminor or something..

MWR · Post by **MWR** » Thu Jan 06, 2005 5:37 pm

gumbomadness wrote:
eze3484 wrote:so smoother with a relative minor for the most part?
Oh.. ya, that would definitley work...
like D > Bminor or something..

That would create either a Dmaj6 or a Bmin7 depending on which note is in the bass. The general idea behind it is the main rhythm plays simple major or minor chords and the second part adds harmonic extensions to it. So guitar one could play an open A (A, C#, E) and guitar two could play a Gsus2 (G, A, D) which would create an A7add11 (A,C#,E,G,D). It's a pretty simple way of making complex, piano-like chords. If you learn how to build chords and scales you will have an unlimited amount of options at your disposal.
It tends to work better when the first guitar is playing open or bar chords and the second is playing closed position triads. If both guitars are playing full chords it will sound muddy.

So who wants to start up that theory debate again...?

DMBFan63 · Post by **DMBFan63** » Thu Jan 06, 2005 5:47 pm

MWR wrote:
gumbomadness wrote:
eze3484 wrote:so smoother with a relative minor for the most part?
Oh.. ya, that would definitley work...
like D > Bminor or something..
That would create either a Dmaj6 or a Bmin7 depending on which note is in the bass. The general idea behind it is the main rhythm plays simple major or minor chords and the second part adds harmonic extensions to it. So guitar one could play an open A (A, C#, E) and guitar two could play a Gsus2 (G, A, D) which would create an A7add11 (A,C#,E,G,D). It's a pretty simple way of making complex, piano-like chords. If you learn how to build chords and scales you will have an unlimited amount of options at your disposal.
It tends to work better when the first guitar is playing open or bar chords and the second is playing closed position triads. If both guitars are playing full chords it will sound muddy.

So who wants to start up that theory debate again...?

I would, but you own me in theory..I'm still learning much of it

Pickles · Post by **Pickles** » Thu Jan 06, 2005 5:48 pm

MWR wrote:
gumbomadness wrote:
eze3484 wrote:so smoother with a relative minor for the most part?
Oh.. ya, that would definitley work...
like D > Bminor or something..
That would create either a Dmaj6 or a Bmin7 depending on which note is in the bass. The general idea behind it is the main rhythm plays simple major or minor chords and the second part adds harmonic extensions to it. So guitar one could play an open A (A, C#, E) and guitar two could play a Gsus2 (G, A, D) which would create an A7add11 (A,C#,E,G,D). It's a pretty simple way of making complex, piano-like chords. If you learn how to build chords and scales you will have an unlimited amount of options at your disposal.
It tends to work better when the first guitar is playing open or bar chords and the second is playing closed position triads. If both guitars are playing full chords it will sound muddy.

So who wants to start up that theory debate again...?

great post