Help with rhythm, especially typical situation

[Mich1584]

im having a lot of trouble with strumming patterns, and i am trying to learn typical situation but even after using the video i cant seem to get it down correctly, id appreciate any help in general or specifically about typical situation

[gravedigger]

im having a lot of trouble with strumming patterns, and i am trying to learn typical situation but even after using the video i cant seem to get it down correctly, id appreciate any help in general or specifically about typical situation

Listen and practice and play along with Live at Luther College. listen to the transitions, timing etc. than try to play along and match your timings with Daves. eventually it'll get in your head and through your hands and out on to the guitar. practice practice practice......ad infinitum.

[billywestom]

you can see a good video of Dave playing it on KaZaA....search for "solo record store" or something like that. You can see his hands pretty well.

[41suitewhirled]

yes i know i am pulling this thread up from the dead, but for some reason im having a really hard time getting the rhythm down for this..after analyzing a bunch of videos this is what ive gathered:

1) for each chord daves strumming hand does a downstroke (motion) 7 times
2) there is one "up-down" motion while transitioning from one chord to the next

can anyone help me out with the actual strum pattern on this one?

(the rhythm seems to always give me the hardest time when im trying dave songs!)

thanks for your help!

[Blake]

what part of typical situation are you trying to learn?

[41suitewhirled]

right where it goes into "everybody's happy, everybody's free"

this part:

E------------------------------------------------------------------
B---------------------------------------------------------------1----1
G-0h2-2---0h2-2----0h2--2--0h2--2---0h2--2---0h2--2---x----2--
D-0----0---0----0----0----0---0----0----2----2---2----2----2----x--
A-x----x---x----x----x----x---x----x----0----0---0----0----3----3
E-3----3---3----3----1----1---1----1-------------------------------

[Blake]

try just strumming these simple chords for now, once you get used to it, you can tackle the hammer-ons. it's a pretty basic strumming pattern in 4/4 time. if you're REALLY dying, i can try to post a video at some point

E-----3--------3--------------------------
B-----0--------0-------1-------1--------
G-----0--------0-------2-------0--------
D-----0--------0-------2-------2--------
A-----2--------3-------0-------3--------
E-----3--------1-------------------------

EDIT: your chords are a basic G, F, Am, C chord progression. i only put the 130003 because that's how i learned it back in the day, but it's pretty much the same. if it's easier to use the F chord to learn the rythm, then by all means, use it

[41suitewhirled]

i have the broken chords down alright but yeah maybe its those hammer ons that could be throwing my rhythm off...ill start practicing without them for the time being and start adding them in once i get that strumming down

[41suitewhirled]

AHA! so i figured it out...so like i said earlier my big issue when i try to learn dave songs is the rhythm, mostly because i can never figure out when a stroke up or down he is actually striking the strings or not, but if i can get those first couple beats down right the rest kind of comes naturally (when i try to go ahead and play just based on how it sounds alot of the time my strumming hand will have absolutely no constant up/down rhythm, which ultimately ends up in getting lost somewhere in the song)...anyways the way i figured out those first couple strums for typical situation made the rest fall into place:

first down/up: downstroke only, no upstroke
second down/up: no downstroke, upstroke only

and just after figuring that little piece out, my strumming hand just fell into the rhythm naturally!

im assuming the more i practice, the more natural the strum patterns get so i dont have to analyze every strum so much...but for now ill call it progress
thanks for your help blake!

[Blake]

sweet man! keep practicing, one day it will just click and it will come as natural as breathing.
and then you'll laugh about how hard of a time you had with it

oh and welcome to the boards btw.

[Klondog]

DMBTabs.com, welcome to it!

Can't say it enough!

[41suitewhirled]

thanks!!

[bogert]

I will still say that a good video can really solve your problem

[Easy E]

Id say the key is to concentrate on hitting the bass note and then the next downstrum is the hammer on