Let You Down Strumming

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Let You Down Strumming

Unread post by davembfan85 » Sun Jul 17, 2005 1:06 am

Hey... I've been listening to various version of LYD and can't seem to get the strumming right. I've been playing DUDU once for each chord, but it sounds on most versions like he plays 5 beats, DUDUD. It doesn't feel right to play that, then start the next one UDUDU.

Any insight to this?

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Unread post by i-am-me » Sun Jul 17, 2005 1:07 am

DUDUD.....DUDUD.....DUDUD....DUDUD
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Unread post by captainburrito » Sun Jul 17, 2005 10:49 am

when i play it, i go UDUDU right from the start. I kind of stress the first downstroke and the last up stroke, with a muted downstroke in between. So it is like this: uDudUxuDudU...if that makes any sense whatsoever.

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Re: Let You Down Strumming

Unread post by topgun17 » Sun Jul 17, 2005 8:54 pm

davembfan85 wrote:Hey... I've been listening to various version of LYD and can't seem to get the strumming right. I've been playing DUDU once for each chord, but it sounds on most versions like he plays 5 beats, DUDUD. It doesn't feel right to play that, then start the next one UDUDU.

Any insight to this?
i have the same problem with this song, the chords arent the problem just the strum pattern
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Re: Let You Down Strumming

Unread post by Beauford33 » Sun Jul 17, 2005 8:58 pm

davembfan85 wrote:Hey... I've been listening to various version of LYD and can't seem to get the strumming right. I've been playing DUDU once for each chord, but it sounds on most versions like he plays 5 beats, DUDUD. It doesn't feel right to play that, then start the next one UDUDU.

Any insight to this?
Its in 3/4 so that might be why you're getting confused. One measure per chord.
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Re: Let You Down Strumming

Unread post by Popeye2003 » Mon Jul 18, 2005 3:59 pm

Beauford33 wrote: Its in 3/4 so that might be why you're getting confused. One measure per chord.
Wouldn't it be 5/4?

I play DUDU on the first, then go DUDUD, UDUDU, DUDUD... or, at least, I try to do that.

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Unread post by Beauford33 » Mon Jul 18, 2005 4:23 pm

Popeye2003 wrote:
Beauford33 wrote: Its in 3/4 so that might be why you're getting confused. One measure per chord.
Wouldn't it be 5/4?

I play DUDU on the first, then go DUDUD, UDUDU, DUDUD... or, at least, I try to do that.
Nope, it most definitly is 3/4. One measure per chord.
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Re: Let You Down Strumming

Unread post by Popeye2003 » Mon Jul 18, 2005 4:32 pm

Beauford33 wrote: Nope, it most definitly is 3/4. One measure per chord.
There are 5 chords.

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Unread post by Beauford33 » Mon Jul 18, 2005 4:40 pm

Popeye2003 wrote:
Beauford33 wrote: Nope, it most definitly is 3/4. One measure per chord.
There are 5 chords.
So its a 5 measure phrase. Just because there are 5 chords doesnt make it 5/4.
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Re: Let You Down Strumming

Unread post by Popeye2003 » Mon Jul 18, 2005 4:42 pm

Beauford33 wrote:
Popeye2003 wrote:
Beauford33 wrote: Nope, it most definitly is 3/4. One measure per chord.
There are 5 chords.
So its a 5 measure phrase. Just because there are 5 chords doesnt make it 5/4.
I know it doesn't, but you said one measure per chord. I'm trying to make it make sense to me.

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Re: Let You Down Strumming

Unread post by Machtimus » Mon Jul 18, 2005 5:57 pm

Popeye2003 wrote:
Beauford33 wrote:
Popeye2003 wrote:
Beauford33 wrote: Nope, it most definitly is 3/4. One measure per chord.
There are 5 chords.
So its a 5 measure phrase. Just because there are 5 chords doesnt make it 5/4.
I know it doesn't, but you said one measure per chord. I'm trying to make it make sense to me.
5 chords =five measures to this formula. so for each chord, you'll play that chord for one measure then move onto the next chord... which will be played for one measure.

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Unread post by natedawg » Wed Jul 20, 2005 12:19 pm

I personally think you are all wrong. I think it is in 2/4 and he plays the notes in a way that makes them sound like dragged out triplets. So he is dragging behind the beat and then does a catch up at the beginning of each phrase.

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Unread post by Beauford33 » Wed Jul 20, 2005 12:22 pm

natedawg wrote:I personally think you are all wrong. I think it is in 2/4 and he plays the notes in a way that makes them sound like dragged out triplets. So he is dragging behind the beat and then does a catch up at the beginning of each phrase.
I, and music theory would agree, know you are wrong. If you do the most basic thing and clap the beat, you will know it is 3/4, and ther is no triplet to it. Besides, how can he do a little "catch up" if each note is held for the same duration. He is not playing a polyrhythm.
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Unread post by natedawg » Wed Jul 20, 2005 12:40 pm

I am at work so I can't listen now, but I thought that on the 5th chord, it was abnormally short. Perhaps my memory is mistaken.

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I found someone with an ipod that has it. I base my 2/4 on two things. The chorus "I have no lid upon my head" part is totally in 2/4. As for the verse, the base line is running at 2/4. Please don't throw music theory into this either. If you agree, that is your opinion, but I know music theory too. I have played jazz sax for 12 years. So I think it will just be my opinion against yours, and if thats how it is, so be it, I am fine with that.

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Unread post by natedawg » Thu Jul 28, 2005 5:30 pm

I would just like to add that I found this to back my theory. Being as scanning the whole song would be against board policy, I just took a picture of enough to prove my point. http://astro.temple.edu/~green00/let_you_down.jpg

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