How I play 41 (read if you cant stretch) (opinions?)

matt2053 · Post by **matt2053** » Fri Jan 31, 2003 2:20 am

When I play this song, I play the stretch only once through in the intro, and I can barely manage, and I play the verse part during the singing, but if I extend the intro or jam alot then I play it like this, tell me what you think:

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E:-0---2---3---2----------------
B:-1---0---3---3-----------------
G:-0---2---0---2-----------------
D:-2---0---2---0-----------------
A:-0---2---2--------------------
E:---------0-----------------

Just thought I'd share that for anyone who has trouble with the stretch, the stretch will come in time but this is I think an adequate substitute until you get there.

billywestom · Post by **billywestom** » Fri Jan 31, 2003 2:44 am

This is actually kinda what Tim plays, and it sounds good for the intro and verse as well (but the verse is easy anyway)

--3----x------3--------
--3----3------0----3---
--5----x------0----x---
--5----4------2----4---
--x----2------2----5---
-------------------------

johntherevelator · Post by **johntherevelator** » Fri Jan 31, 2003 4:26 pm

billywestom wrote:This is actually kinda what Tim plays, and it sounds good for the intro and verse as well (but the verse is easy anyway)

--3----x------3--------
--3----3------0----3---
--5----x------0----x---
--5----4------2----4---
--x----2------2----5---
-------------------------

thats what i play as a lead guitarist in the two man acoustic group im in
except i play the 3rd chord with the note on b, 3rd fret instead of e, 3rd fret.
anyways, everyone was tellking me that first chord was wrong and im just glad to know someone agrees with me!

that chord is sweet for the song but no one realizes it

gravedigger · Post by **gravedigger** » Fri Jan 31, 2003 4:32 pm

johntherevelator wrote:
that chord is sweet for the song but no one realizes it

its not as sweet as the correct one.

johntherevelator · Post by **johntherevelator** » Fri Jan 31, 2003 4:33 pm

gravedigger wrote:
johntherevelator wrote:
that chord is sweet for the song but no one realizes it
its not as sweet as the correct one.

ive had just about enough of you and youre proper mumbo jumbo grave

were talking about a second guitar part her, you realize that right?

billywestom · Post by **billywestom** » Fri Jan 31, 2003 4:35 pm

johntherevelator wrote:
billywestom wrote:This is actually kinda what Tim plays, and it sounds good for the intro and verse as well (but the verse is easy anyway)

--3----x------3--------
--3----3------0----3---
--5----x------0----x---
--5----4------2----4---
--x----2------2----5---
-------------------------
thats what i play as a lead guitarist in the two man acoustic group im in
except i play the 3rd chord with the note on b, 3rd fret instead of e, 3rd fret.
anyways, everyone was tellking me that first chord was wrong and im just glad to know someone agrees with me!

that chord is sweet for the song but no one realizes it

Yeah, the reason it is right is because those two high notes are two of the notes in the first chord of the outro:

-10-
-8--
-7--
----
----
----

so it sounds right. and the b and e string you were talking about, they work both ways, or together...

johntherevelator · Post by **johntherevelator** » Fri Jan 31, 2003 4:37 pm

great stuff
now if grave will only realize its not always whats in the tab that sounds best.....

billywestom · Post by **billywestom** » Fri Jan 31, 2003 4:49 pm

johntherevelator wrote:great stuff
now if grave will only realize its not always whats in the tab that sounds best.....

I would actually prefer playing the normal chords for the intro. when i first got L@LC, i learned those chords, and swore that they had to be correct. so i played those chords throughout the whole song. but i was uneducated...

johntherevelator · Post by **johntherevelator** » Fri Jan 31, 2003 4:51 pm

billywestom wrote:
johntherevelator wrote:great stuff
now if grave will only realize its not always whats in the tab that sounds best.....
I would actually prefer playing the normal chords for the intro. when i first got L@LC, i learned those chords, and swore that they had to be correct. so i played those chords throughout the whole song. but i was uneducated...

im talkin about a second guitar part

billywestom · Post by **billywestom** » Fri Jan 31, 2003 4:52 pm

johntherevelator wrote:
billywestom wrote:
johntherevelator wrote:great stuff
now if grave will only realize its not always whats in the tab that sounds best.....
I would actually prefer playing the normal chords for the intro. when i first got L@LC, i learned those chords, and swore that they had to be correct. so i played those chords throughout the whole song. but i was uneducated...
im talkin about a second guitar part

Oh yeah, got mixed up. They're good for that..

gravedigger · Post by **gravedigger** » Fri Jan 31, 2003 7:25 pm

johntherevelator wrote:
billywestom wrote:
johntherevelator wrote:great stuff
now if grave will only realize its not always whats in the tab that sounds best.....
I would actually prefer playing the normal chords for the intro. when i first got L@LC, i learned those chords, and swore that they had to be correct. so i played those chords throughout the whole song. but i was uneducated...
im talkin about a second guitar part

oh a second guitar part? oh, then I'd play this:

Am -> Bm -> Em -> D

case closed.

johntherevelator · Post by **johntherevelator** » Fri Jan 31, 2003 7:27 pm

gravedigger wrote:
johntherevelator wrote:
billywestom wrote:
johntherevelator wrote:great stuff
now if grave will only realize its not always whats in the tab that sounds best.....
I would actually prefer playing the normal chords for the intro. when i first got L@LC, i learned those chords, and swore that they had to be correct. so i played those chords throughout the whole song. but i was uneducated...
im talkin about a second guitar part
oh a second guitar part? oh, then I'd play this:

Am -> Bm -> Em -> D

case closed.

the am and bm sound good
i think the em and d sound like complete and utter shit

gravedigger · Post by **gravedigger** » Fri Jan 31, 2003 7:53 pm

johntherevelator wrote:
gravedigger wrote:
johntherevelator wrote:
billywestom wrote:
johntherevelator wrote:great stuff
now if grave will only realize its not always whats in the tab that sounds best.....
I would actually prefer playing the normal chords for the intro. when i first got L@LC, i learned those chords, and swore that they had to be correct. so i played those chords throughout the whole song. but i was uneducated...
im talkin about a second guitar part

Am -> Bm -> Em -> D

case closed.
the am and bm sound good
i think the em and d sound like complete and utter shit

oh ok. this Em that someone up there used: 0-2-2-0-0-3

and try this D: x-5-4-x-3-x

can you admit to that at least? throw me a frickin' bone here

johntherevelator · Post by **johntherevelator** » Fri Jan 31, 2003 8:29 pm

yep
you just got me confused cuz that chord isnt really d
its d minor or something or other
who cares really?

madtadder · Post by **madtadder** » Fri Jan 31, 2003 10:44 pm

billywestom wrote:This is actually kinda what Tim plays, and it sounds good for the intro and verse as well (but the verse is easy anyway)

--3----x------3--------
--3----3------0----3---
--5----x------0----x---
--5----4------2----4---
--x----2------2----5---
-------------------------

yeah, or you could play what howie day plays for the song. this goes pretty well with the normal guitar part:

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e----3-3-3-3-3-3-3--2---2-5-5-2---7---7-10-10-7---0-0-5-5-0-
b----3-3-3-3-3-3-3--2h3-3-3-3-3---7h8-8-8--8--8---3-3-3-3-5-
g----5-5-5-5-5-5-5--2---2-2-2-2---7---7-7--7--7---0-0-0-0-0-
d----5-5-5-5-5-5-5--4---4-4-4-4---7h9-9-9--9--9---4-4-4-4-4-
a--0----------------2---2-----2---7---7-7--7--7---5-5-5-5-5-
E-----------------------------------------------------------