***How to Care for your Guitar***

[Kahn]

Shows the maturity of this board, it's like buying beers for 10 year olds and having them storm out of DMB shows because they didn't play something on the radio.

I agreed with you until right there. I don't even know what that means.

[T714]

Shows the maturity of this board, it's like buying beers for 10 year olds and having them storm out of DMB shows because they didn't play something on the radio.

I agreed with you until right there. I don't even know what that means.

I dunno either. It's like you can't raise any points on things around here. On every guitar forum, it's like point-counterpoint...here it's point-WWIII.

Peace.

[checkii]

please look at who is calling names and blowing things out of proportion

[Kahn]

that picture is clutch

[dmb66]

Those are all direct quotes from Jean Larrivee in my post. I think HE knows what he is talking about.

Sure, but CF Martin or Bill Collings have a different view on things and i can reference them as well...and THEY know what they are talking about.

Again, apples to apples.

Haven't guitars as well as shipping methods and care methods changed since the late 1700's and early 1800's when CF Martin was alive?

While this is all up to debate (I have the Larrivee handbook Kahn used as a reference and I trust it) Others have other opinions based on experience as well.

In regards to critiques of shipping methods, do you who are bashing C.F. Martin's advice honestly think that the original poster was referring to Martin's original founder and not his second son or whatever he is? You're just being purposely naive for the sake of argument if you answered yes.

I have absolutely no clue what you are talking about since when you say, "do you who are", it makes no sense whatsoever. I also have no clue what your gripe is.

Anyways, regarding my post, you can substitute James Goodall, Michael Baskin, Trevor Kronbauer, whoever for CF Martin. All have different ways of doing things...and so as I made my post, I was drawing upon a plethora of luthiers and builders, etc., that do things differently. Does it really matter? Nope. Will each tell me how to change my strings differently? Yup. Will each recommend a different polish? Yep. Does each ship their guitars differently...YOU BETCHA.

Again, as I stated, my post was to offer more insight and a differing opinion. I clearly stated that I was not being argumentative, but somehow you turned it that way. So, who is the naive one?

And for the record, anyone who says CF Martins are outdated are pretty naive as well. Or, at least they have never heard of a dreadnought, a truss rod, an X-brace, a transverse brace, a bridge plate, scalloped bracing, etc. etc. etc. These were ideas and terms coined and/or invented in the 1800's.

Shows the maturity of this board, it's like buying beers for 10 year olds and having them storm out of DMB shows because they didn't play something on the radio.

I was actually defending you because people were giving you heat for referencing another builder's opinion. (C.F. Martin) When I said people were bashing the original poster, that poster was you. Sorry you took it the wrong way.

[dmb66]

and yes, I did think he was referign to CF Martin since thats what he posted and I am uneducated as to the family tree that followed.
and i think macht is right, no need to get the panties in a bunch.

Alright man, no worries, but it just looked like you were trying to argue against his point because his information was "old". Apparently you weren't so sorry.

[checkii]

and yes, I did think he was referign to CF Martin since thats what he posted and I am uneducated as to the family tree that followed.
and i think macht is right, no need to get the panties in a bunch.

Alright man, no worries, but it just looked like you were trying to argue against his point because his information was "old". Apparently you weren't so sorry.

[Appfro]

I disagree with your "summer" advice.
I also disagree with your shipping advice.

I also disagree with your "airport" advice.

Anyways, regarding my post, you can substitute James Goodall, Michael Baskin, Trevor Kronbauer, whoever for CF Martin. All have different ways of doing things...and so as I made my post, I was drawing upon a plethora of luthiers and builders, etc., that do things differently.

Again, as I stated, my post was to offer more insight and a differing opinion.

It's like you can't raise any points on things around here. On every guitar forum, it's like point-counterpoint...here it's point-WWIII.

Peace.

dude, i think you're full of crap. the fact is, kahn was posting to help people w/ the care of their guitar. you come in and post your, I DISAGREE WITH'S, and then get mad when people disagree w/ you and claim that everyone here is childish. then you go on to say that you were just stating an opinion when you find out that kahn's advice was from someone who knew what they were talking about, but you didn't say, "here's another opinion," you said, "i disagree" essentially saying, "you're wrong."

and it's funny that you brin gup the point-counterpoint thing when really, you were the one that went through kahn's post, took all of his points, and gave your counterpoints...you even called them counterpoints in your post.

so yea, you can't be offended when someone disagrees w/ you and gives counterpoints when you're the one who started disagreeing and giving counterpoints. that's just freaking stupid.

you may have good points, but you either 1. gotta give your advice a little more humbly, or 2. be prepared for people to disagree w/ you w/o getting your panties all bunched up.

[Cor]

Umm.. just as a comment. I carried my guitar on board this August and got it in the upper sotrage compartment no problem or question. I would imagine that's a little safer than sticking it under the plane..

[buffjam9011]

approaching the first winter season with my dc16rgte, i think i should definitely get a humidifier. i was looking at the planet waves humidifier and hydrometer... but I've read people having problems with mold from the humidifier and incorrect readings from the hydrometer... anyone have any input on this? is this just from people not knowing what they're doing or is the planet waves thing really screwed up? if it is fked up anyone have other good alternatives? thanks

[Yakko]

Im so lucky/happy; year round the humidity in my room is 49-51%

Be jealous of my blande weather

[Grachi]

approaching the first winter season with my dc16rgte, i think i should definitely get a humidifier. i was looking at the planet waves humidifier and hydrometer... but I've read people having problems with mold from the humidifier and incorrect readings from the hydrometer... anyone have any input on this? is this just from people not knowing what they're doing or is the planet waves thing really screwed up? if it is fked up anyone have other good alternatives? thanks

yea the humidifier will grow mold if you don't clean it regularly. and then mold spores will be flying out of there and you will be breathing it, and thats not good.

You have to clean it with like bleach or vinegar or something like that too. I remember because I was going to get a humidifier for my dorm room because the dorm rooms get pretty dry. But I learned about the frequent cleaning and decided to just hang my towel (which is usually pretty wet) from taking showers in the morning and i just let it hang off my closet door. My roommate actually does the same coincidentally so I've actually swiped a hydrometer from my house just to see what it was like in here, and its about 38%-42%. I think thats a little lower then ideal, but it's better then it was before it was like 28%-30%. I think it works so well because the room is so small and we have our vent closed so the heat doesn't get in here either.

Edit: my basement at home is a different story. It's like 48-50% humidity year round, and I live in my basement as well so my guitars are always in good shape at home.

Edit 2: the best way to do it in my opinion, and i've talked to a luthier at the guitar place i go to, is to have a hygrometer, understand the percent error it can have (mine is +/- 5% so thats something to consider), and then use any kind of humidifier accordingly, soundhole or not. If you move around a lot with your guitar though or bring it different places, it's better to have a soundhole one because then the humidity can stay contained in there when you can't control the outside environment very much (ie. hotel room or car ride, someone else's house, a venue, etc).

i have that planet waves soundhole one and find it very useful. I thought you were talking about a humidifier for a room, which is a different story. I haven't heard of mold growing in that thing, but i have heard that overtime the spongey material in there becomes less absorbing to water so you have to replace it, which isn't the biggest deal because it was like two bux, and this doesn't happen for a long time... I dont know if it's the same for the hygrometer/humidifier combo they have, but i know thats the story with the small soundhole one.

Also, I don't recommend getting one that sits inside your case but not in the soundhole. I had one like this before I got the planet waves one and found it to be very ineffective. It was a little clay like substance contained in a black case with two holes in the top of the case. It didn't properly humidify the guitar or even the case for that matter, it would roll around in there and bang against the guitar when carrying the case, and one day i found mold in it... so i would forgo getting one of those solutions... since it's not a very practical one if you ask me.

[thesavageguy]

Reviving an older thread...

I was in a guitar shop today playing some Taylors (looking to nab an up-scale model) and I start talking to the guy that works there about potential warping and caring for your guitars. For whatever reason, I start to mentally freak about my current guitars. I've got a bunch of really nice ones, all which I display out of their cases (wall or stands) in a room where the blinds are shut 99.9% of the time and the temperature remains mainly the same (although my condo can warm up during the summer).

Would I be better off with them in their cases? Should I be taking more measures (live in Seattle)?

Especially if I drop a few thousand on a nice Taylor, I want to know what I am doing in regards to taking care of these treasures.

Any input is appreciated.

[Kahn]

In the summer I usually keep my guitars out, but I live in Florida. Washington's climate is a whole different story.

[Grachi]

In the summer I usually keep my guitars out, but I live in Florida. Washington's climate is a whole different story.

Out in the summer, in the case in the winter for me as well