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Unread post by Pizzle » Mon Jul 24, 2006 3:42 pm

praisedave wrote:yeh i read that, but i emailed ebay when this exact ad was up 3 days ago and they never emailed me back. ugh w/e too suspicious...


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Unread post by mangold » Mon Jul 24, 2006 3:58 pm

checkii wrote:
praisedave wrote:yeh i read that, but i emailed ebay when this exact ad was up 3 days ago and they never emailed me back. ugh w/e too suspicious...
wait, so you read that and were still wondering if it is a good idea
no heres what i think happened. i think this guy probably stole the system or is trying to scam people by hacking into sellers with good ebay ratings accounts and hoping to make a quick sale off their feedback. no i dont think it is a good idea... sigh
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Unread post by T714 » Mon Jul 24, 2006 6:52 pm

praisedave wrote:
checkii wrote:
praisedave wrote:yeh i read that, but i emailed ebay when this exact ad was up 3 days ago and they never emailed me back. ugh w/e too suspicious...
wait, so you read that and were still wondering if it is a good idea
no heres what i think happened. i think this guy probably stole the system or is trying to scam people by hacking into sellers with good ebay ratings accounts and hoping to make a quick sale off their feedback. no i dont think it is a good idea... sigh
As I've told various people throughout this site, "if it's too good to be true...", well you know the rest.

When i first read your post and what the seller wrote to you, the language was waaaaay off. 75% of fraudulent ebayers are from overseas. Not to sound discriminatory, but a 10 year old could write better than this guy. Red flag number one. Wanting your Ebay information, red flag number two.

A lot of people on this forum have never heard of "hijacked" ebay accounts. The link posted (and then removed by Ebay) was from a hijacked account. There are various ways for sellers to obtain information from good-hearted Ebayers, and this is one of them.

If you supplied your info to him, I would cancel your credit card ASAP.

Don't fall for this stuff.

And why are you buying a BOSE PA system? Start with a simple Fender Passport or even get a good SWR or Ultrasound or Trace Elliot acoustic amp with two channels. That's all you need. I ventured off on an "east coast" tour last year with nothing more than an SWR California Blonde. BOSE systems are most effective when everyone in your band is using one.

If a PA is what you are after and you want the good stuff, get a good Mackie board, a high quality power amp, and a set of Mackie speakers.

The BOSE isn't ALL that impressive...at least, not for $2k.

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Unread post by mangold » Mon Jul 24, 2006 7:00 pm

T714 wrote:
praisedave wrote:
checkii wrote:
praisedave wrote:yeh i read that, but i emailed ebay when this exact ad was up 3 days ago and they never emailed me back. ugh w/e too suspicious...
wait, so you read that and were still wondering if it is a good idea
no heres what i think happened. i think this guy probably stole the system or is trying to scam people by hacking into sellers with good ebay ratings accounts and hoping to make a quick sale off their feedback. no i dont think it is a good idea... sigh
As I've told various people throughout this site, "if it's too good to be true...", well you know the rest.

When i first read your post and what the seller wrote to you, the language was waaaaay off. 75% of fraudulent ebayers are from overseas. Not to sound discriminatory, but a 10 year old could write better than this guy. Red flag number one. Wanting your Ebay information, red flag number two.

A lot of people on this forum have never heard of "hijacked" ebay accounts. The link posted (and then removed by Ebay) was from a hijacked account. There are various ways for sellers to obtain information from good-hearted Ebayers, and this is one of them.

If you supplied your info to him, I would cancel your credit card ASAP.

Don't fall for this stuff.

And why are you buying a BOSE PA system? Start with a simple Fender Passport or even get a good SWR or Ultrasound or Trace Elliot acoustic amp with two channels. That's all you need. I ventured off on an "east coast" tour last year with nothing more than an SWR California Blonde. BOSE systems are most effective when everyone in your band is using one.

If a PA is what you are after and you want the good stuff, get a good Mackie board, a high quality power amp, and a set of Mackie speakers.

The BOSE isn't ALL that impressive...at least, not for $2k.
i have a nice 2 channel crate, but it doesnt respond too well to any kind of mic, its always very bassy and feedbacklicious.

im not too interested in a bose system, although it does look pretty nice, it was more the thought or scoring it for 650 that was appealing.
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Unread post by T714 » Mon Jul 24, 2006 7:12 pm

praisedave wrote:
T714 wrote:
praisedave wrote:
checkii wrote:
praisedave wrote:yeh i read that, but i emailed ebay when this exact ad was up 3 days ago and they never emailed me back. ugh w/e too suspicious...
wait, so you read that and were still wondering if it is a good idea
no heres what i think happened. i think this guy probably stole the system or is trying to scam people by hacking into sellers with good ebay ratings accounts and hoping to make a quick sale off their feedback. no i dont think it is a good idea... sigh
As I've told various people throughout this site, "if it's too good to be true...", well you know the rest.

When i first read your post and what the seller wrote to you, the language was waaaaay off. 75% of fraudulent ebayers are from overseas. Not to sound discriminatory, but a 10 year old could write better than this guy. Red flag number one. Wanting your Ebay information, red flag number two.

A lot of people on this forum have never heard of "hijacked" ebay accounts. The link posted (and then removed by Ebay) was from a hijacked account. There are various ways for sellers to obtain information from good-hearted Ebayers, and this is one of them.

If you supplied your info to him, I would cancel your credit card ASAP.

Don't fall for this stuff.

And why are you buying a BOSE PA system? Start with a simple Fender Passport or even get a good SWR or Ultrasound or Trace Elliot acoustic amp with two channels. That's all you need. I ventured off on an "east coast" tour last year with nothing more than an SWR California Blonde. BOSE systems are most effective when everyone in your band is using one.

If a PA is what you are after and you want the good stuff, get a good Mackie board, a high quality power amp, and a set of Mackie speakers.

The BOSE isn't ALL that impressive...at least, not for $2k.
i have a nice 2 channel crate, but it doesnt respond too well to any kind of mic, its always very bassy and feedbacklicious.

im not too interested in a bose system, although it does look pretty nice, it was more the thought or scoring it for 650 that was appealing.
i gotcha now. a 2 channel Crate amp is fine, and then start working your way up. Crate makes decent amps, but combining both channels tends to produce a "muddy" sort of sound.

check out some Ultrasound models or the SWR Cali Blonde if you want a really good two channel amp. but again, sticking with the Crate for now is fine until you figure out your best application (full band, solo, duo, etc).

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Unread post by mangold » Mon Jul 24, 2006 8:25 pm

T714 wrote:
praisedave wrote:
T714 wrote:
praisedave wrote:
checkii wrote:
praisedave wrote:yeh i read that, but i emailed ebay when this exact ad was up 3 days ago and they never emailed me back. ugh w/e too suspicious...
wait, so you read that and were still wondering if it is a good idea
no heres what i think happened. i think this guy probably stole the system or is trying to scam people by hacking into sellers with good ebay ratings accounts and hoping to make a quick sale off their feedback. no i dont think it is a good idea... sigh
As I've told various people throughout this site, "if it's too good to be true...", well you know the rest.

When i first read your post and what the seller wrote to you, the language was waaaaay off. 75% of fraudulent ebayers are from overseas. Not to sound discriminatory, but a 10 year old could write better than this guy. Red flag number one. Wanting your Ebay information, red flag number two.

A lot of people on this forum have never heard of "hijacked" ebay accounts. The link posted (and then removed by Ebay) was from a hijacked account. There are various ways for sellers to obtain information from good-hearted Ebayers, and this is one of them.

If you supplied your info to him, I would cancel your credit card ASAP.

Don't fall for this stuff.

And why are you buying a BOSE PA system? Start with a simple Fender Passport or even get a good SWR or Ultrasound or Trace Elliot acoustic amp with two channels. That's all you need. I ventured off on an "east coast" tour last year with nothing more than an SWR California Blonde. BOSE systems are most effective when everyone in your band is using one.

If a PA is what you are after and you want the good stuff, get a good Mackie board, a high quality power amp, and a set of Mackie speakers.

The BOSE isn't ALL that impressive...at least, not for $2k.
i have a nice 2 channel crate, but it doesnt respond too well to any kind of mic, its always very bassy and feedbacklicious.

im not too interested in a bose system, although it does look pretty nice, it was more the thought or scoring it for 650 that was appealing.
i gotcha now. a 2 channel Crate amp is fine, and then start working your way up. Crate makes decent amps, but combining both channels tends to produce a "muddy" sort of sound.

check out some Ultrasound models or the SWR Cali Blonde if you want a really good two channel amp. but again, sticking with the Crate for now is fine until you figure out your best application (full band, solo, duo, etc).
can you suggest a way to un muddy my vocals? the guitar sounds great through it. would a mic preamp help?
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Unread post by T714 » Mon Jul 24, 2006 8:51 pm

praisedave,
what exact model amp do you have?...sometimes playing around with the features of the amp will help. I had a CA-120 a while back and it had on some onboard effects that were cool. The only tough part was that I couldn't assign an effect to a separate channel...i.e., guitar gets delay so vocals get delay, etc.

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Unread post by mangold » Mon Jul 24, 2006 8:57 pm

T714 wrote:praisedave,
what exact model amp do you have?...sometimes playing around with the features of the amp will help. I had a CA-120 a while back and it had on some onboard effects that were cool. The only tough part was that I couldn't assign an effect to a separate channel...i.e., guitar gets delay so vocals get delay, etc.
ca 60
it has basic reverb for each channel, thats it though
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Unread post by T714 » Mon Jul 24, 2006 9:09 pm

praisedave wrote:
T714 wrote:praisedave,
what exact model amp do you have?...sometimes playing around with the features of the amp will help. I had a CA-120 a while back and it had on some onboard effects that were cool. The only tough part was that I couldn't assign an effect to a separate channel...i.e., guitar gets delay so vocals get delay, etc.
ca 60
it has basic reverb for each channel, thats it though
does your guitar have onboard EQ? a little "cheat" is to set the EQ's on your amp "flat" (the middle or "detente" position). turn up your amp to the volume you normally play at, and set your vocals FIRST. After you set your vocals, THEN plug in your guitar and EQ that (assuming you have onboard EQ). That way, you can "color" your guitar and not effect your vocals so much.

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Unread post by mangold » Mon Jul 24, 2006 9:19 pm

T714 wrote:
praisedave wrote:
T714 wrote:praisedave,
what exact model amp do you have?...sometimes playing around with the features of the amp will help. I had a CA-120 a while back and it had on some onboard effects that were cool. The only tough part was that I couldn't assign an effect to a separate channel...i.e., guitar gets delay so vocals get delay, etc.
ca 60
it has basic reverb for each channel, thats it though
does your guitar have onboard EQ? a little "cheat" is to set the EQ's on your amp "flat" (the middle or "detente" position). turn up your amp to the volume you normally play at, and set your vocals FIRST. After you set your vocals, THEN plug in your guitar and EQ that (assuming you have onboard EQ). That way, you can "color" your guitar and not effect your vocals so much.
no eq persay, each channel has low mid high contour knobs
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Unread post by T714 » Mon Jul 24, 2006 9:38 pm

praisedave wrote:
T714 wrote:
praisedave wrote:
T714 wrote:praisedave,
what exact model amp do you have?...sometimes playing around with the features of the amp will help. I had a CA-120 a while back and it had on some onboard effects that were cool. The only tough part was that I couldn't assign an effect to a separate channel...i.e., guitar gets delay so vocals get delay, etc.
ca 60
it has basic reverb for each channel, thats it though
does your guitar have onboard EQ? a little "cheat" is to set the EQ's on your amp "flat" (the middle or "detente" position). turn up your amp to the volume you normally play at, and set your vocals FIRST. After you set your vocals, THEN plug in your guitar and EQ that (assuming you have onboard EQ). That way, you can "color" your guitar and not effect your vocals so much.
no eq persay, each channel has low mid high contour knobs
ok, so try and set the vocals first and then set your guitar. start with the volume up at "stage volume" and the EQ flat. these amps are best suited for those gay sounding "intimate acoustic sessions".

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Unread post by mangold » Mon Jul 24, 2006 9:39 pm

T714 wrote:
praisedave wrote:
T714 wrote:
praisedave wrote:
T714 wrote:praisedave,
what exact model amp do you have?...sometimes playing around with the features of the amp will help. I had a CA-120 a while back and it had on some onboard effects that were cool. The only tough part was that I couldn't assign an effect to a separate channel...i.e., guitar gets delay so vocals get delay, etc.
ca 60
it has basic reverb for each channel, thats it though
does your guitar have onboard EQ? a little "cheat" is to set the EQ's on your amp "flat" (the middle or "detente" position). turn up your amp to the volume you normally play at, and set your vocals FIRST. After you set your vocals, THEN plug in your guitar and EQ that (assuming you have onboard EQ). That way, you can "color" your guitar and not effect your vocals so much.
no eq persay, each channel has low mid high contour knobs
ok, so try and set the vocals first and then set your guitar. start with the volume up at "stage volume" and the EQ flat. these amps are best suited for those gay sounding "intimate acoustic sessions".
the actual speaker doesnt sound too bad, but everytime i add something to the effects loop or use the line out it becomes mud city.
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Unread post by T714 » Mon Jul 24, 2006 9:59 pm

praisedave wrote:
T714 wrote:
praisedave wrote:
T714 wrote:
praisedave wrote:
T714 wrote:praisedave,
what exact model amp do you have?...sometimes playing around with the features of the amp will help. I had a CA-120 a while back and it had on some onboard effects that were cool. The only tough part was that I couldn't assign an effect to a separate channel...i.e., guitar gets delay so vocals get delay, etc.
ca 60
it has basic reverb for each channel, thats it though
does your guitar have onboard EQ? a little "cheat" is to set the EQ's on your amp "flat" (the middle or "detente" position). turn up your amp to the volume you normally play at, and set your vocals FIRST. After you set your vocals, THEN plug in your guitar and EQ that (assuming you have onboard EQ). That way, you can "color" your guitar and not effect your vocals so much.
no eq persay, each channel has low mid high contour knobs
ok, so try and set the vocals first and then set your guitar. start with the volume up at "stage volume" and the EQ flat. these amps are best suited for those gay sounding "intimate acoustic sessions".
the actual speaker doesnt sound too bad, but everytime i add something to the effects loop or use the line out it becomes mud city.
OK...so what about a Yamaha powered mixer and a decent set of JBL monitors? Hell, keep the vocals and guitar separate.

Or, get an SWR Cali Blonde and your problems are solved that way too.

HA!

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Unread post by mangold » Mon Jul 24, 2006 10:32 pm

T714 wrote:
praisedave wrote:
T714 wrote:
praisedave wrote:
T714 wrote:
praisedave wrote:
T714 wrote:praisedave,
what exact model amp do you have?...sometimes playing around with the features of the amp will help. I had a CA-120 a while back and it had on some onboard effects that were cool. The only tough part was that I couldn't assign an effect to a separate channel...i.e., guitar gets delay so vocals get delay, etc.
ca 60
it has basic reverb for each channel, thats it though
does your guitar have onboard EQ? a little "cheat" is to set the EQ's on your amp "flat" (the middle or "detente" position). turn up your amp to the volume you normally play at, and set your vocals FIRST. After you set your vocals, THEN plug in your guitar and EQ that (assuming you have onboard EQ). That way, you can "color" your guitar and not effect your vocals so much.
no eq persay, each channel has low mid high contour knobs
ok, so try and set the vocals first and then set your guitar. start with the volume up at "stage volume" and the EQ flat. these amps are best suited for those gay sounding "intimate acoustic sessions".
the actual speaker doesnt sound too bad, but everytime i add something to the effects loop or use the line out it becomes mud city.
OK...so what about a Yamaha powered mixer and a decent set of JBL monitors? Hell, keep the vocals and guitar separate.

Or, get an SWR Cali Blonde and your problems are solved that way too.

HA!
i would love a powered mixer, but i dont want to shell out for 8 channels just to get the wattage im looking for. WHY CAN SOME COMPANY MAKE A NICE 3 INPUT POWERED MIXER WITH LIKE 500 WATTS OUTPUT?
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Unread post by T714 » Mon Jul 24, 2006 10:46 pm

praisedave wrote:
T714 wrote:
praisedave wrote:
T714 wrote:
praisedave wrote:
T714 wrote:
praisedave wrote:
T714 wrote:praisedave,
what exact model amp do you have?...sometimes playing around with the features of the amp will help. I had a CA-120 a while back and it had on some onboard effects that were cool. The only tough part was that I couldn't assign an effect to a separate channel...i.e., guitar gets delay so vocals get delay, etc.
ca 60
it has basic reverb for each channel, thats it though
does your guitar have onboard EQ? a little "cheat" is to set the EQ's on your amp "flat" (the middle or "detente" position). turn up your amp to the volume you normally play at, and set your vocals FIRST. After you set your vocals, THEN plug in your guitar and EQ that (assuming you have onboard EQ). That way, you can "color" your guitar and not effect your vocals so much.
no eq persay, each channel has low mid high contour knobs
ok, so try and set the vocals first and then set your guitar. start with the volume up at "stage volume" and the EQ flat. these amps are best suited for those gay sounding "intimate acoustic sessions".
the actual speaker doesnt sound too bad, but everytime i add something to the effects loop or use the line out it becomes mud city.
OK...so what about a Yamaha powered mixer and a decent set of JBL monitors? Hell, keep the vocals and guitar separate.

Or, get an SWR Cali Blonde and your problems are solved that way too.

HA!
i would love a powered mixer, but i dont want to shell out for 8 channels just to get the wattage im looking for. WHY CAN SOME COMPANY MAKE A NICE 3 INPUT POWERED MIXER WITH LIKE 500 WATTS OUTPUT?
Have you checked out the Yamaha EMX series?

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