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Which way?

DMBtabs way
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the other way
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Total votes: 17

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Unread post by DmbFanJason » Mon Jan 13, 2003 12:09 am

lol....really?oh yeah...I wrote So Much To SAY...I knew it was one of the two...

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Unread post by StarSlight » Mon Jan 13, 2003 12:17 am

You mean they're not the same song?

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Unread post by gravedigger » Mon Jan 13, 2003 12:29 am

I think I've entered the Twilight Zone :shock:
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Unread post by Brock » Mon Jan 13, 2003 12:30 am

gravedigger wrote:I think I've entered the Twilight Zone :shock:
lol :mrgreen:
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Unread post by MattyTrane » Mon Jan 13, 2003 12:40 am

Back to the topic....
THere is more than 1 way to play something.... /gasp

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Unread post by DmbFanJason » Mon Jan 13, 2003 1:02 am

yea but dave doesnt play this one different...i dont understand why yall dont see that...

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Unread post by Brock » Mon Jan 13, 2003 1:05 am

Perhaps we should just let this one lie... it doesn't seem like the topic is being resolved in any helpful way.
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Unread post by ticohans » Mon Jan 13, 2003 1:13 am

all i have to say is wow.

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Re: Pay For What You Get Cover/Mp3!!

Unread post by PNP padowan » Mon Jan 13, 2003 1:13 am

DmbFanJason wrote:yo yo yo...its not about opinion fool
DmbFanJason wrote:I want to know yalls take on it....lata!
DmbFanJason wrote:i am not wrong, you just dont have a good ear
DmbFanJason wrote:all you punkasses who voted against me....I suggest you take all the wax out of your ears
DmbFanJason wrote:i am god on the guitar
DmbFanJason wrote:geez...look at those votes...that means 8 out of 12 people are deaf
DmbFanJason wrote:i feel sorry for you for you have excess amounts of wax in your ears
First off, I'd like to note that I do feel that you're covers are pretty damn good. I'd also like to say that I neither have the recording equipment, nor the time/energy to record my own covers, and I'd like to apologize, oh dear, merciful lord, for my inadequacies at playing guitar. Please cast upon me any punishment you deem fitting for not being as fucking good as thou. Ok, dude, after sitting here and reading enumerous posts made by you, I've come to the conclusion that you're are simply, and most definately, a dirty, dirty douche. That's right, a douche. You sit in front of a computer screen all day, posting covers that, yes, put other's covers to shame, and sit here and rant about how shitty their's are compared to your own. You're good, but you're not in any way a master at what you do. I'm sure you're ass paid a lot of money to take guitar lesson's, get your finger's really strong, and wasted a lot of time sitting at home on your ass, looking at tabs that are, might I add, tabbed from video, and thus assure ACCURACY, and then play them into a microphone, add a fill or two and a "jam" and call it your own. And it doesn't take much else to upload that song to a website, and have a thread that ridicules other people's playing and commands praise under the guise of being a friendly post informing other's that "god" has released another song. Get off your high horse, man, and learn some damned dignity and respect. Not everyone's as good as you are, and more importantly, not everyone cares to be as good as you are, and MOST importantly, not everyone's gives a shit how good you are. As far as I'm concerned, you're just another talented musician, no better than any other talented musician.

In response to this whole post, who exactly gives a flying fuck? Does it really matter? You're repeatedly state that one string is the difference, that it changes the song completely, and then in the same breath, you state that the wax-eared "punkasses" should be able to tell, if they could play guitar decently, that the high-E notes are played by Tim. Doesn't that mean that they are in deed being played, and whether or not someone chooses to play them doesn't fucking matter because any way you look at it, the notes are being played? You know, Dave and the boys do play songs differently some times. It's called a "fill". I'm sure you've heard of it. It's a note or series of notes played in between the normal chord progressions to give the song that extra "something". Or maybe you've heard of "alternate chord formations"? A different way of playing a chord. Or here's a good one...and get ready for this because it's not something you are used to hearing and taking to heart...maybe you're just wrong. It could possibly be, god, that you're the one who needs to use a q-tip on his ears. Did you ever think of that? Or is your mind too simple and one-sided to understand that we all make mistakes, no matter how omniscient we may feel we are.

I'd also like to point out that you are, by definition, easily the stupidest person on the board.
Stupid: adj. irrational; foolish; fallacious
Fallacious: adj. having an argument lacking in sound logic; containing a fallacy

Examples of fallacies in Jason's posts:
1)ad hominem-attacking the man and not the argument: "all you punkasses who voted against me, i suggest you take all the wax out of your ears"
2)false analogy-assuming that because two things are alike in one way, they are the same in another: i.e. "i hear it this way, i play it this way, therefore, dave plays it that way"
3)false authority-the assumption that an expert in one field is an expert in another: i.e. "i play guitar better than you; therefore, i have a better here than all you punkasses"
4)false dilemna-stating only 2 alternatives exist when others do: i.e. "either i'm right, or you're wrong"
5)guilt by association-unfair bias and prejudice: i.e. any of the racial slurs made by the fallacious one
6)hasty generalization-a generalization based on too little facts: i.e. the fact that you state that dave always plays it like you say he does based on one account
7)non sequiter-an idea that does not follow a previously asserted statement: i.e. one note does not change the entire song, and your next post states, my WWYS is different, and noone's complaining
8)red herring-dodging the real issue with an unrelated topic: you're simply dodging the fact that you're a dirty douche by trying to make everyone feel stupid. But in reality, you're the stupid one. I've never seen so many fallacies come from one person in my entire life. You are the degrading element of society, the reason that we slip further and further away from intellectual greatness. And before you try and attack me, just realize that I am smarter than you, and there's nothing that you can do to disprove that. So quit trying to be so damned magnanimous, and make like a douche and clean some pussy.

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Unread post by DmbFanJason » Mon Jan 13, 2003 2:17 am

Holy mother of god...i'm not posting for another week!

jk...damn good speech though...seriously...wow, I'm trying to convey this post as a serious one because that was very impressive PNP...you have probably been the closest one to shutting me up yet...BTW i have never had any lessons of any kind...boooooyaahhhh!

PNP...You should a biography about the history of my time at the Dmbtabs guitar discussion...damn!

but hey, honestly, dont you wish you could play like me bro?

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Unread post by jkanter » Mon Jan 13, 2003 2:19 am

I don't like to get into these arguements on my board because I feel that me saying anything too inappropriate brings down the integrity of the site(even though this post, and others like this, already do)....But I HAVE TO GET INTO THIS ONE........

What do ya know....another FUCKING thread gone to shit because of Jason. Listen up man.....what the fuck is your reason for even posting shit like that? OK, you want to get everyone's opinions.....but they are ALL wrong when they disagree with you. Ya know what.....YOU MAY BE RIGHT, but I guarantee you that there are def some people who voted for the way on my site....JUST BECAUSE IT'S NOT WHAT YOU AGREE WITH. I listened to the clip....your right, it doesn't sound like he plays that high E. I can also tell you that I BET he has played it with the high E.....I don't know, but it's such a subtle difference(and also sounds somewhat correct since as you say, Timmy plays it) that why could he NOT play it that way...YOU ARE GOING ON ONE VERSION.

I don't even think that this thread has anything to do with that anymore. STOP being a dick. When talking on AIM you aren't anything like what your acting here. I don't know what your trying to prove but I guarantee you no one here really gives a shit....and if they really do.....they have to understand that this is a message board online.

You have gone about changes on the site the RIGHT way before...IMing me or E-Mailing me. Just to let you remember....there were MANY changes that you had suggested to me through e-mail that YOU WERE WRONG ABOUT.....FROM WATCHING VIDEO'S. I could easily have said to you....WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU THINKING....CAN'T YOU USE THOSE EYES OF YOURS, IT'S BLATANTLY OBVIOUS WHAT HE'S PLAYING. But I didn't, I nicely stated how I saw things and told you what why. It's your actions and how you carry yourself that get you places....not being an asshole.

I don't know what your trying to prove here....if it's about acting tough, no one believes the act. While I don't think it's possible to really agree with him much....Winston really did put it perfectly in the first reply....I am not trying to be a dick....but you are being a fucking idiot about the way you are going about this.....STOP THIS SHIT.....THERE IS NO NEED FOR SUCH ARGUEMENT, ALL JUST WANT TO LISTEN TO, AND PLAY MUSIC, NOT ARGUE OVER STUPID SHIT LIKE THIS
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Unread post by winston » Mon Jan 13, 2003 2:37 am

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Re: Pay For What You Get Cover/Mp3!!

Unread post by mbgreen » Mon Jan 13, 2003 2:46 am

PNP padowan wrote:
DmbFanJason wrote:yo yo yo...its not about opinion fool
DmbFanJason wrote:I want to know yalls take on it....lata!
DmbFanJason wrote:i am not wrong, you just dont have a good ear
DmbFanJason wrote:all you punkasses who voted against me....I suggest you take all the wax out of your ears
DmbFanJason wrote:i am god on the guitar
DmbFanJason wrote:geez...look at those votes...that means 8 out of 12 people are deaf
DmbFanJason wrote:i feel sorry for you for you have excess amounts of wax in your ears
First off, I'd like to note that I do feel that you're covers are pretty damn good. I'd also like to say that I neither have the recording equipment, nor the time/energy to record my own covers, and I'd like to apologize, oh dear, merciful lord, for my inadequacies at playing guitar. Please cast upon me any punishment you deem fitting for not being as fucking good as thou. Ok, dude, after sitting here and reading enumerous posts made by you, I've come to the conclusion that you're are simply, and most definately, a dirty, dirty douche. That's right, a douche. You sit in front of a computer screen all day, posting covers that, yes, put other's covers to shame, and sit here and rant about how shitty their's are compared to your own. You're good, but you're not in any way a master at what you do. I'm sure you're ass paid a lot of money to take guitar lesson's, get your finger's really strong, and wasted a lot of time sitting at home on your ass, looking at tabs that are, might I add, tabbed from video, and thus assure ACCURACY, and then play them into a microphone, add a fill or two and a "jam" and call it your own. And it doesn't take much else to upload that song to a website, and have a thread that ridicules other people's playing and commands praise under the guise of being a friendly post informing other's that "god" has released another song. Get off your high horse, man, and learn some damned dignity and respect. Not everyone's as good as you are, and more importantly, not everyone cares to be as good as you are, and MOST importantly, not everyone's gives a shit how good you are. As far as I'm concerned, you're just another talented musician, no better than any other talented musician.

In response to this whole post, who exactly gives a flying fuck? Does it really matter? You're repeatedly state that one string is the difference, that it changes the song completely, and then in the same breath, you state that the wax-eared "punkasses" should be able to tell, if they could play guitar decently, that the high-E notes are played by Tim. Doesn't that mean that they are in deed being played, and whether or not someone chooses to play them doesn't fucking matter because any way you look at it, the notes are being played? You know, Dave and the boys do play songs differently some times. It's called a "fill". I'm sure you've heard of it. It's a note or series of notes played in between the normal chord progressions to give the song that extra "something". Or maybe you've heard of "alternate chord formations"? A different way of playing a chord. Or here's a good one...and get ready for this because it's not something you are used to hearing and taking to heart...maybe you're just wrong. It could possibly be, god, that you're the one who needs to use a q-tip on his ears. Did you ever think of that? Or is your mind too simple and one-sided to understand that we all make mistakes, no matter how omniscient we may feel we are.

I'd also like to point out that you are, by definition, easily the stupidest person on the board.
Stupid: adj. irrational; foolish; fallacious
Fallacious: adj. having an argument lacking in sound logic; containing a fallacy

Examples of fallacies in Jason's posts:
1)ad hominem-attacking the man and not the argument: "all you punkasses who voted against me, i suggest you take all the wax out of your ears"
2)false analogy-assuming that because two things are alike in one way, they are the same in another: i.e. "i hear it this way, i play it this way, therefore, dave plays it that way"
3)false authority-the assumption that an expert in one field is an expert in another: i.e. "i play guitar better than you; therefore, i have a better here than all you punkasses"
4)false dilemna-stating only 2 alternatives exist when others do: i.e. "either i'm right, or you're wrong"
5)guilt by association-unfair bias and prejudice: i.e. any of the racial slurs made by the fallacious one
6)hasty generalization-a generalization based on too little facts: i.e. the fact that you state that dave always plays it like you say he does based on one account
7)non sequiter-an idea that does not follow a previously asserted statement: i.e. one note does not change the entire song, and your next post states, my WWYS is different, and noone's complaining
8)red herring-dodging the real issue with an unrelated topic: you're simply dodging the fact that you're a dirty douche by trying to make everyone feel stupid. But in reality, you're the stupid one. I've never seen so many fallacies come from one person in my entire life. You are the degrading element of society, the reason that we slip further and further away from intellectual greatness. And before you try and attack me, just realize that I am smarter than you, and there's nothing that you can do to disprove that. So quit trying to be so damned magnanimous, and make like a douche and clean some pussy.

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Holy shit.

I fully support this post. You said everything I was thinking, but I wasnt about to take the time to write something like this.

Nice post. Damn nice post.
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Unread post by MattyTrane » Mon Jan 13, 2003 2:49 am

egads thats a lot of words.

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Unread post by dustin » Mon Jan 13, 2003 3:59 am

jkanter wrote:I don't like to get into these arguements on my board because I feel that me saying anything too inappropriate brings down the integrity of the site(even though this post, and others like this, already do)....But I HAVE TO GET INTO THIS ONE........

What do ya know....another FUCKING thread gone to shit because of Jason. Listen up man.....what the fuck is your reason for even posting shit like that? OK, you want to get everyone's opinions.....but they are ALL wrong when they disagree with you. Ya know what.....YOU MAY BE RIGHT, but I guarantee you that there are def some people who voted for the way on my site....JUST BECAUSE IT'S NOT WHAT YOU AGREE WITH. I listened to the clip....your right, it doesn't sound like he plays that high E. I can also tell you that I BET he has played it with the high E.....I don't know, but it's such a subtle difference(and also sounds somewhat correct since as you say, Timmy plays it) that why could he NOT play it that way...YOU ARE GOING ON ONE VERSION.

I don't even think that this thread has anything to do with that anymore. STOP being a dick. When talking on AIM you aren't anything like what your acting here. I don't know what your trying to prove but I guarantee you no one here really gives a shit....and if they really do.....they have to understand that this is a message board online.

You have gone about changes on the site the RIGHT way before...IMing me or E-Mailing me. Just to let you remember....there were MANY changes that you had suggested to me through e-mail that YOU WERE WRONG ABOUT.....FROM WATCHING VIDEO'S. I could easily have said to you....WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU THINKING....CAN'T YOU USE THOSE EYES OF YOURS, IT'S BLATANTLY OBVIOUS WHAT HE'S PLAYING. But I didn't, I nicely stated how I saw things and told you what why. It's your actions and how you carry yourself that get you places....not being an asshole.

I don't know what your trying to prove here....if it's about acting tough, no one believes the act. While I don't think it's possible to really agree with him much....Winston really did put it perfectly in the first reply....I am not trying to be a dick....but you are being a fucking idiot about the way you are going about this.....STOP THIS SHIT.....THERE IS NO NEED FOR SUCH ARGUEMENT, ALL JUST WANT TO LISTEN TO, AND PLAY MUSIC, NOT ARGUE OVER STUPID SHIT LIKE THIS
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