What Would It Take From DMB?

DT · Post by DT » Fri Dec 23, 2005 10:32 am

I think I was such a huge DMB fan for a while that I totally burned myself out on them. Now my brother goes to college and starts listening to DMB like crazy. He even grew his hair out and started wearing birks. Its like I'm looking back in time 4 years.

I think DMB was the first band that I got really into and could go see live. Before them I really only listened to classic rock. Once I started going to a lot of shows it opened up my horizons a lot and I started listening to a lot more current bands. Eventually I started to find some DMB songs (and the fans' reaction to them) corny. Every song doesnt have to be dripping with emotion to be good. I think people idolize the band and the music too much and the crowd suffers because of it. I'm just glad I got to see them in a few of their finer moments. They really introduced me to a lot of other music... I dont think I'll ever be quite the fan that I was, but I'll always have their cd's around.

Also, I absolutely hate the new music. Old Dirt Hill is one of the worst songs I've ever heard. I started laughing when I heard it for the first time.

bassman462 · Post by **bassman462** » Fri Dec 23, 2005 1:28 pm

an album called "Bobble Head Jesus" feat. the other summer songs that didnt get released, plus other great songs that never got realesed, and jams inbetween the songs. produced by lillywhite.

Brock · Post by **Brock** » Fri Dec 23, 2005 1:48 pm

I'll never get back into DMB the way I used to be because there's just too much good music out there to devote all my time to one band, but I think some people are blowing things out of proportion (not Gianni, but the types of people who prompted the thread).

My main beef with Stand Up isn't the production values (although that is a minor beef), it's the song content. The songs, save a couple, are shit. Shit lyrics, shit music. The band, by all admission of their videos on their promo site, "rushed" their way through this album. I'm not sure whether this was the band's fault, their label's fault, their management's fault, or the producer's fault.

That's really the only "bad" album we've ever gotten out of this band. Everyday had a LOT of great songs. My main beef with Everyday was the way Dave and Glen ignored the rest of the band in the writing of the songs, not the production or (most of) the songs themselves.

Busted Stuff, looked at objectively, is a fantastic album. It contains 6 of my favorite ever DMB songs. Had Lillywhite Sessions not come out, people would really have very little reason to bash it. However, if similar leaks had come out of, say, the BTCS sessions, then the majority of the fanbase would have bashed BTCS the same way they bash BS. They would say that the leaks contained much more emotion than BTCS did, etc. - that's the nature of unedited recordings. Producers HAVE to edit music down from that in order to make the music approachable to a much broader audience. If the LWS were released officially, I don't think anyone outside of the hardcore fan base would enjoy them.

So, in summary, it wouldn't take much to put their new music back into my music rotation. Just good music. They proved they still have it last summer with 5 fantastic songs, but 4 of them were cut from the new album in favor of far more inferior material, and 1 had its gonads removed. Get back to basics, and I'm back to DMB.

Brock · Post by **Brock** » Tue Dec 27, 2005 1:52 pm

i sure know how to kill threads

brian_ok · Post by **brian_ok** » Tue Dec 27, 2005 1:55 pm

bbatsell wrote:i sure know how to kill hookers

Flakes · Post by **Flakes** » Tue Dec 27, 2005 2:21 pm

The Dreaming Tree wrote:I think I was such a huge DMB fan for a while that I totally burned myself out on them. Now my brother goes to college and starts listening to DMB like crazy. He even grew his hair out and started wearing birks. Its like I'm looking back in time 4 years.

I think DMB was the first band that I got really into and could go see live. Before them I really only listened to classic rock. Once I started going to a lot of shows it opened up my horizons a lot and I started listening to a lot more current bands. Eventually I started to find some DMB songs (and the fans' reaction to them) corny. Every song doesnt have to be dripping with emotion to be good. I think people idolize the band and the music too much and the crowd suffers because of it. I'm just glad I got to see them in a few of their finer moments. They really introduced me to a lot of other music... I dont think I'll ever be quite the fan that I was, but I'll always have their cd's around.

Also, I absolutely hate the new music. Old Dirt Hill is one of the worst songs I've ever heard. I started laughing when I heard it for the first time.

That sounds exactly like me. I got all of their albums and downloads tons of live stuff. For about a year DMB is all I listened to. I eally think they need a GREAT studio album to get me bakc into it. I got Stand Up, listened to about 6 songs and I dont think I've listened to DMB for like 4-5 months since then.
I'm planning to go to SPAC with some friends this summer and that would be my first DMB show(s). The plan is to listen to a TON of dmb for about a month beforehand and try and get abck into the band. It kinda makes me sad when I realize that I may have jsut come to late to experience the abnd in there prime.

hofdaddy · Post by **hofdaddy** » Tue Dec 27, 2005 2:21 pm

I would like to see the band hire some half sized musicians. Midgets if you will. Have them play all the songs on tour while the band whips them and does degrading things to them on stage ie. pee on them. I'd pay top dollar for that kind of entertainment

gravesRR7 · Post by **gravesRR7** » Tue Dec 27, 2005 11:08 pm

with this talk about getting burnt out:

a few times in the past couple of years i've been so burnt out by dmb, but as long as there is something to look forward to, or new, i can get right back into it.

I think all of the new releases in the past year or two are really keeping me very interested, otherwise i might have strayed away by now.

thank god for the world of DMB trading. and seriously, there have been what.....i dunno. a LOT of releases the past year even

SU
2 live trax cds
warehouse volume 4
RR 8 disc set
etc.

a1075dd63aa12 · Post by **a1075dd63aa12** » Wed Dec 28, 2005 1:58 am

i guess its too late for a christmas miracle

ShumurooGURU · Post by **ShumurooGURU** » Thu Dec 29, 2005 6:27 pm

Thats a hard question, alot of Dave's appeal for me was the "I'm a grown up child, wondering but not lost" sound that they had. Every CD until Everyday sounded like the background music to every classic kids book of the 50's-70's. That and the vibe and sound was so fresh and youthful...

They've been around for almost 20 years now, and that youthful sound is long gone. Even Rolling Stones faded away slowly...

On a side note, I thought dave's side project (his own cd) was a breath of new life into his sound. "Everyday" was the coffin, "stand up" was the nail.... Dave's long forgotten back home.. unfortunatly.

shess22 · Post by **shess22** » Fri Dec 30, 2005 2:15 am

bbatsell wrote:I'll never get back into DMB the way I used to be because there's just too much good music out there to devote all my time to one band, but I think some people are blowing things out of proportion (not Gianni, but the types of people who prompted the thread).

My main beef with Stand Up isn't the production values (although that is a minor beef), it's the song content. The songs, save a couple, are shit. Shit lyrics, shit music. The band, by all admission of their videos on their promo site, "rushed" their way through this album. I'm not sure whether this was the band's fault, their label's fault, their management's fault, or the producer's fault.

That's really the only "bad" album we've ever gotten out of this band. Everyday had a LOT of great songs. My main beef with Everyday was the way Dave and Glen ignored the rest of the band in the writing of the songs, not the production or (most of) the songs themselves.

Busted Stuff, looked at objectively, is a fantastic album. It contains 6 of my favorite ever DMB songs. Had Lillywhite Sessions not come out, people would really have very little reason to bash it. However, if similar leaks had come out of, say, the BTCS sessions, then the majority of the fanbase would have bashed BTCS the same way they bash BS. They would say that the leaks contained much more emotion than BTCS did, etc. - that's the nature of unedited recordings. Producers HAVE to edit music down from that in order to make the music approachable to a much broader audience. If the LWS were released officially, I don't think anyone outside of the hardcore fan base would enjoy them.

So, in summary, it wouldn't take much to put their new music back into my music rotation. Just good music. They proved they still have it last summer with 5 fantastic songs, but 4 of them were cut from the new album in favor of far more inferior material, and 1 had its gonads removed. Get back to basics, and I'm back to DMB.

Davy28 · Post by **Davy28** » Sun Jan 01, 2006 5:30 pm

jkanter wrote:
jellyfish wrote: -Seen Dave & Tim 3 times - 97,99,03 [97,99 blew 03 out of the water]
I saw D&T in 99 and 03.....99 was head and shoulder above '03. I got to hear Crazy(old school Captain), #40, PFWYG, Angel From Montgomery, If I Had A Boat...Say Goodbye...All D&T when it was just awesome!

1/30/99.....one of the best D&T shows in recent memory....jsut check out the setlist!!!
http://www.dmbalmanac.com/TourShowSet.a ... where=1999

Man, those 99 D&T PFWYGs are the reason the song still exists. They are so staggeringly beautiful and haunting. They blow the band versions out of the water.

IvoryZion · Post by **IvoryZion** » Sun Jan 01, 2006 5:41 pm

I got into DMB cause the rhythms were simple yet almost hypnotic. They weren't the lame cliches I heard everywhere else. Crush literally dragged me in kicking and screaming. I think if DMB could find this again... I would be hooked again.