The Martin vs Taylor Thread

[czech]

i will never understand why ppl. post something like "geta tacoma" or something to that extent when the person is having trouble choosing between a taylor or a martin.... just my 2 cents worth.

i think you missed the point. if you are chosing between a Martin and a Taylor you are a douche and whichever guitar you get should die in a fire.

wow....those are some pretty harsh words. i just bought a 614ce and it is beautiful. im in love with the guitar and that is the most important thing. if you love the way a guitar sounds and plays, there is no reason for you not to get it. i love everything about, its bright sound, the way it sits in my lap, and the beautiful big leaf laple that looks one of a kind. i couldnt be happier, i worked hard to save money up for it and im happy that i spent every penny i had to get it. thats what it is all about searching for the guitar you like and putting the money down to get it. who cares if it is $400 or $2400. i didnt pay for a headstock i paid for a sound that i loved. i played every guitar i could find for a month and i loved the one i got the best. everyone is DIFFERENT and everyone likes different tones, feels and, sounds so there will NEVER be a guitar company that is the BEST.

christ oh mighty some of you people read about as well as costa spells.
Where did I say someone was an idiot for buying a taylor?
My point was that everyone does have different tastes, and martins are so damn different from taylors, chosing between the two is like trying to decide between a ferrari or a hummer. where they are both nice, you are obviously just going for the image (not comparoing performance, etc.) vs. someone who actually shops between a ferrari and a lambo.

[drakemh]

This board kills me. Every gear thread turns into a petty pissing match of martin vs. taylor, and then someone always rushes in out of no where and just yells larrivee. I wouldn't take a martin, taylor, or larrivee over any of the guitars i mentioned in my previous post.

The guitars you mentioned (santa cruz, bourgouis et al) are great guitars but as far as I know you'd be hard pressed to find any of them new for under 2k. Just out of curiousity what do you play?

I play a Blueridge BR-160 and a Takamine EF341C. I'm gonna invest in one more nice acoustic when I graduate from Auburn, something in the $2000 + range. I'll go to Atlanta and play a bunch, and whatever sounds and plays the best out of any brand, name be damned, is what i'll purchase.

[czech]

This board kills me. Every gear thread turns into a petty pissing match of martin vs. taylor, and then someone always rushes in out of no where and just yells larrivee. I wouldn't take a martin, taylor, or larrivee over any of the guitars i mentioned in my previous post.

You entered a thread titled the Martin vs Taylor thread and you are suprised that we are comparing the two makers? christ, some of you guys really are getting dim here.

Where as in most threads people just say Taylors rock, or martins are better, I wanted a thread where we could compare the evident differences that I never really hear diiscussed and have a well thought out discussion of the differences and why they are respectively two of the best guitars you can get at each end of the sound spectrum.

so you coming in here crying about martin vs taylor is not only ignorant as hell, it's just useless, thank you for your useless diatribe, and the door is that way.

[i like tictacs]

Now, when we start talking up in the price range with the HD-28 and 600 series and such I don't know because I haven't played them. This thread has inspired me to go try a few out though to see what I think about them.

nice, that's kind of why i started this thread. it's known i am perobabloy the least musically inclined person on this site, but if I can notice that people are shopping between martins and Taylors strictly for the headstock, then it is sad.

If emulating someones idol makes someone happy, let them do it. I have both a Taylor guitar and a Modulus bass. I wonder...what members of what band play those instruments? Why do I own them? Because when I heard a recording of said band, I thought to myself "damn, they sound good." And when I play them, they don't sound exactly the same, but it's pretty god damn close. To me and other musicians, I am always going to sound like Mike, no matter what I'm playing. But I like to hear a little Stefan Lessard in my playing. It makes me feel better about myself (:lol: )People have told me they can't tell the difference between me and fonz, but I digress and that's just to an untrained ear.

Stop calling people posers or whatever because they are buying Taylors. If that's the sound they want to go for, cool. Taylor is a HUGE guitar company, and if it happens that a DMB fan buys a Taylor guitar, he shouldn't be seen as a 'Dave Matthews headstock worshipper' or some other jargon. Taylor and Marting are probably the most reputable big-name-production-guitar companies out there, and it just so happens that Dave Matthews plays a Taylor. Booohoooo.

[i like tictacs]

Under 2K...Taylor
Over 2K...Martin

This is something I can agree with, unless we're talking plugged in sound, then I think it's the other way around.


who knows. bottom line, it's all opinion. the people working at taylor aren't going to be going hungry any time soon, so buy whatever you want and not what a bunch of muppets on a DMB message board say.

[drakemh]

This board kills me. Every gear thread turns into a petty pissing match of martin vs. taylor, and then someone always rushes in out of no where and just yells larrivee. I wouldn't take a martin, taylor, or larrivee over any of the guitars i mentioned in my previous post.

You entered a thread titled the Martin vs Taylor thread and you are suprised that we are comparing the two makers? christ, some of you guys really are getting dim here.

Where as in most threads people just say Taylors rock, or martins are better, I wanted a thread where we could compare the evident differences that I never really hear diiscussed and have a well thought out discussion of the differences and why they are respectively two of the best guitars you can get at each end of the sound spectrum.

so you coming in here crying about martin vs taylor is not only ignorant as hell, it's just useless, thank you for your useless diatribe, and the door is that way.

My comment was directed at the person who typed Larrivee into the Martin vs. Taylor thread. Like YOU said, this is a thread to discuss the differences between these two brands, and that guy added nothing to the thread by plugging larrivee. And if you want to get a in name calling match, fine. You started out this thread by compairing $2000 + Martin's to 300 series Taylors. THAT'S ignorant. How the hell are Martin's not supposed to win in that matchup.

[czech]

Now, when we start talking up in the price range with the HD-28 and 600 series and such I don't know because I haven't played them. This thread has inspired me to go try a few out though to see what I think about them.

nice, that's kind of why i started this thread. it's known i am perobabloy the least musically inclined person on this site, but if I can notice that people are shopping between martins and Taylors strictly for the headstock, then it is sad.

If emulating someones idol makes someone happy, let them do it. I have both a Taylor guitar and a Modulus bass. I wonder...what members of what band play those instruments? Why do I own them? Because when I heard a recording of said band, I thought to myself "damn, they sound good." And when I play them, they don't sound exactly the same, but it's pretty god damn close. To me and other musicians, I am always going to sound like Mike, no matter what I'm playing. But I like to hear a little Stefan Lessard in my playing. It makes me feel better about myself (:lol: )People have told me they can't tell the difference between me and fonz, but I digress and that's just to an untrained ear.

Stop calling people posers or whatever because they are buying Taylors. If that's the sound they want to go for, cool. Taylor is a HUGE guitar company, and if it happens that a DMB fan buys a Taylor guitar, he shouldn't be seen as a 'Dave Matthews headstock worshipper' or some other jargon. Taylor and Marting are probably the most reputable big-name-production-guitar companies out there, and it just so happens that Dave Matthews plays a Taylor. Booohoooo.

mike you dumb bastard

no one is saying you are a poser for buying a taylor. My point was that if the two guittars that you are shopping between are Taylors and Martins, then yes, now you are a poser. Point being, they sound so different, why would you be shopping onlyt between these two? And I see people do it a lot here.
im over typing out this same damn post every page. the point is, if they sound so different why would you shop opnly for those two? my deduction, you are only interested in the brand name.

If you bought a taylor because you preferit, then good for you, glad you are happy, maybe even tell us what you like about it.

[xan.]

Now, when we start talking up in the price range with the HD-28 and 600 series and such I don't know because I haven't played them. This thread has inspired me to go try a few out though to see what I think about them.

nice, that's kind of why i started this thread. it's known i am perobabloy the least musically inclined person on this site, but if I can notice that people are shopping between martins and Taylors strictly for the headstock, then it is sad.

If emulating someones idol makes someone happy, let them do it. I have both a Taylor guitar and a Modulus bass. I wonder...what members of what band play those instruments? Why do I own them? Because when I heard a recording of said band, I thought to myself "damn, they sound good." And when I play them, they don't sound exactly the same, but it's pretty god damn close. To me and other musicians, I am always going to sound like Mike, no matter what I'm playing. But I like to hear a little Stefan Lessard in my playing. It makes me feel better about myself (:lol: )People have told me they can't tell the difference between me and fonz, but I digress and that's just to an untrained ear.

Stop calling people posers or whatever because they are buying Taylors. If that's the sound they want to go for, cool. Taylor is a HUGE guitar company, and if it happens that a DMB fan buys a Taylor guitar, he shouldn't be seen as a 'Dave Matthews headstock worshipper' or some other jargon. Taylor and Marting are probably the most reputable big-name-production-guitar companies out there, and it just so happens that Dave Matthews plays a Taylor. Booohoooo.

mike you dumb bastard

no one is saying you are a poser for buying a taylor. My point was that if the two guittars that you are shopping between are Taylors and Martins, then yes, now you are a poser. Point being, they sound so different, why would you be shopping onlyt between these two? And I see people do it a lot here.
im over typing out this same damn post every page. the point is, if they sound so different why would you shop opnly for those two? my deduction, you are only interested in the brand name.

If you bought a taylor because you preferit, then good for you, glad you are happy, maybe even tell us what you like about it.

Then if that is your point then why did you name the topic of this thread MARTIN VS TAYLOR if your point has nothing to do with comparing these two guitar companies. Mike is exactly right and he couldnt have said it any better. no more posts should have been made after him. People can shop between Martin and Taylor because they are completely different. Some people cant decide if they like the Martin or the Taylor until they SHOP for them and compare to see which one is better for them. For a long time i played Martins and Taylors in guitar stores. I loved them both because they were DIFFERENT. I liked things about the Martin and things about a Taylor. It wasnt for awhile until i started to lean toward the Taylor becuase to me it was more comfortable and i liked the brighter, snappier sound. thats also why you should take your time to really know which one you want. If i worked to have saved money to buy a $2K plus guitar why wouldnt i either buy a Martin or a Taylor because they are arguably the two top companies?? So what you are saying is just not making much sense. You just have to think about what your saying first because it is completely rediculous and you are way off topic.

[srslots81]

x-a-n is the m-a-n

you guys are all idiots. why the hell do you care why someone else buys a guitar?

checkii, you said : the point of me posting this was that i think a lot of the memebers here just go by name brand, why else would you be considering either a taylor or a martin?



um, how bout because they are great guitars? ever think of that one? i just bought a martin HD-28V, and ill tell you this much, when im still playing it 30 years from now and it sounds better then any other guitar, mainly because it was made from a high quality company whose instruments are fine works of art, and the name on the headstock wears off from 30 years of hard playing and traveling, do you think im gonna stop playing because people cant see the brand?

people look at these guitars because they are good. i dont need to go into why someone would look at both, because XAN said it perfectly.

checkii, you said it yourself you are no where near the musical level to warrant getting any of these guitars, and while you often have good points, your bad ones overshadow them and not only make you look like you dont deserve to play them, but that you are also just plain 'ignant.


PS. Larri's, breedloves, santa cruz....all great guitars as well. no need to ever bash a high quality guitar overall, only justified in saying you dont like it. that being said, i dont like taylors.

[hcole]

I think you guys are missing checkii's point. He wasn't saying either one of the companies makes crappy guitars that people shouldn't buy. He said that they are so night and day that he doesn't understand how people have such a hard time deciding which one to get. I can see both sides. On one hand they are so different that you'd think everyone would have a definite preference (i.e. they love the bright sound or they love the deeper sound). On the other hand since they are so different I could see how people might want one of each but can't afford it so they can't decide which sound they want. Either way I wouldn't take it as Checkii bashing either company.

You guys both joined recently (maybe you've lurked for ages who knows) but hang out long enough and you'll see exactly what checkii is talking about though.

[srslots81]

oh i already know what hes talking about, and it bothers me just as much. people who have no idea about the guitars get them just for the name. I totally agree with what hes saying, its just the way he says it "why else would you be considering either a taylor or a martin?"

i wrote back on things like that...overall i agree with most things he says.

its all good.

[czech]

then i'd appreciate the antithesis and tell me why someone would be chosing between these two. Or tell me maybe how they might be similar in ways I didnt notice.

and thank you cole, that is one of my points, you guys havent been around here participating, we see this every other week, someone wasking which guitar to get between let's say an HD-28 or 714ce. I started this thread because if my untrained ear can hear that these guitars are nothign alike in sound and feel/playability, it makes zero sense.
hang out longer and you guys will see.
I just want to kill anymore of these threads. Hence the title, so now people can read about the differences (hence the term 'vs') between the two manufacturers before they want to shop like dave.

[srslots81]

i hear ya

my thoughts are close to what cole and xan said, since they are so different it might be hard to chose if you like both. someone might like both for different reasons. i personally dont like taylor so i knew i was going to get a martin, or something with a martin like sound. but lets say i played in a big band and loved the martin sound, and only had enough loot for one guitar. i would give serious consideration towards a taylor, because generally their higher end models sound amazing plugged in.

[czech]

but lets say i played in a big band and loved the martin sound, and only had enough loot for one guitar. i would give serious consideration towards a taylor

This is kind of what i dont get. I understand Taylor sound great plugged in.
But you say if you loved the martin sound and played in a big band setting you would consider a taylor. I just cant see how loving the martin sound translates into wanting a taylor.
I might just not be underastanding cause i am at work on 4 hours of sleep. so excuse my short brain capacity right now.

[srslots81]

i mean im just saying i would give it serious consideration - truth be told i would probably still go with a martin or something similar, but with a big band and tons of instruments, the Taylors project through better. Less instruments, where the acoustic sound really shines through - i would go martin all the way.