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Unread post by a1075dd63aa12 » Fri Jul 22, 2005 9:53 pm

god i want that guitar

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Unread post by hcole » Fri Jul 22, 2005 10:07 pm

Sciaracastro wrote:idk a shit about woods etc...looking at the specs, can anyone tell me if it's gonna be a bassy guitar or whatever?
Looking at the specs, I would imagine it would have decent bass. It's a rosewood dread which tend to deliver the bass. I wouldn't think the koa centerpiece in the back is going to have to much effect on the tone, but I'm certainly not a luthier.

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Unread post by hcole » Fri Jul 22, 2005 10:08 pm

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jsgksu wrote:Is that headstock koa? And whats the inlay on the fretboard?
his sig i'd assume.

im almost considering making my own guitar right now.
anyone know of a company you can order kits from to make your own guitar?
Checkii, I haven't used one of these kits personally but I've read good things about them from people who have.

http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Kits.html

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Unread post by GrateDMB21 » Fri Jul 22, 2005 10:31 pm

The only negative to that guitar, I would say is the saddle/nut. Its made out of compensated tusq. You think with that price, they can at least upgrade to bone. O well...still a beautiful guitar, especially that flamed koa strip and the headstock is quite different than the norm.
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Unread post by Brock » Sat Jul 23, 2005 3:34 am

GrateDMB21 wrote:The only negative to that guitar, I would say is the saddle/nut. Its made out of compensated tusq. You think with that price, they can at least upgrade to bone. O well...still a beautiful guitar, especially that flamed koa strip and the headstock is quite different than the norm.
Unless I'm mistaken, any mass-produced guitar by the big companies is going to have Tusq. DM3MD had Tusq. 914's have Tusq. It's not because they can't afford bone or ivory, obviously if you're paying that kind of price, then they could throw that in - it's because bone and ivory are pretty inconsistent. Each guitar reacts differently to a different piece of bone, and requires significant setup by a good luthier. They obviously can't afford to do that.
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GrateDMB21 wrote:The only negative to that guitar, I would say is the saddle/nut. Its made out of compensated tusq. You think with that price, they can at least upgrade to bone. O well...still a beautiful guitar, especially that flamed koa strip and the headstock is quite different than the norm.
Unless I'm mistaken, any mass-produced guitar by the big companies is going to have Tusq. DM3MD had Tusq. 914's have Tusq. It's not because they can't afford bone or ivory, obviously if you're paying that kind of price, then they could throw that in - it's because bone and ivory are pretty inconsistent. Each guitar reacts differently to a different piece of bone, and requires significant setup by a good luthier. They obviously can't afford to do that.
You are actually very mistaken. First, the DM3MD has Micarta, which is similar to Tusq, both man-made products. Bone and Ivory are WAY more consistent and WAY more durable than Micarta and Tusq. The reason why big manufacturer's tend to use these materials is because they are cheap. For example, Taylor guitars produced about 80,000 guitars last year. If a Tusq saddle cost Taylor guitars .10 cents, and a bone saddle cost them $1.00, it's clear to see the advantages. It's all about cost cutting measures. Bone, Walrus Ivory, Elephant Ivory, and Hippo Ivory are harder materials that transfer sound more purely, and are far more resistant to chipping and "grooving" in the slots.

You can read about it here:

http://www.guitarsaddles.com

And if you research Martin and Taylor's super high-end guitars, which borderline custom guitars (like the Taylor T5), they come with bone saddles already installed. It's all economics my friend.

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Unread post by drakemh » Sat Jul 23, 2005 11:36 am

That guitar is absolutely amazing. I'd take that over the Dave model any day.

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next time i see him at school playing raquetball with my strength and conditioning coach i'm going to ask him to hook it up
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fortyoneantz wrote:next time i see him at school playing raquetball with my strength and conditioning coach i'm going to ask him to hook it up
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Unread post by Brock » Sat Jul 23, 2005 12:56 pm

T714 wrote:
bbatsell wrote:
GrateDMB21 wrote:The only negative to that guitar, I would say is the saddle/nut. Its made out of compensated tusq. You think with that price, they can at least upgrade to bone. O well...still a beautiful guitar, especially that flamed koa strip and the headstock is quite different than the norm.
Unless I'm mistaken, any mass-produced guitar by the big companies is going to have Tusq. DM3MD had Tusq. 914's have Tusq. It's not because they can't afford bone or ivory, obviously if you're paying that kind of price, then they could throw that in - it's because bone and ivory are pretty inconsistent. Each guitar reacts differently to a different piece of bone, and requires significant setup by a good luthier. They obviously can't afford to do that.
You are actually very mistaken. First, the DM3MD has Micarta, which is similar to Tusq, both man-made products. Bone and Ivory are WAY more consistent and WAY more durable than Micarta and Tusq. The reason why big manufacturer's tend to use these materials is because they are cheap. For example, Taylor guitars produced about 80,000 guitars last year. If a Tusq saddle cost Taylor guitars .10 cents, and a bone saddle cost them $1.00, it's clear to see the advantages. It's all about cost cutting measures. Bone, Walrus Ivory, Elephant Ivory, and Hippo Ivory are harder materials that transfer sound more purely, and are far more resistant to chipping and "grooving" in the slots.

You can read about it here:

http://www.guitarsaddles.com

And if you research Martin and Taylor's super high-end guitars, which borderline custom guitars (like the Taylor T5), they come with bone saddles already installed. It's all economics my friend.
I was wrong about the Micarta, but I've actually been told about the bone inconsistency being the reason they don't ship standard by two luthiers in person, and that's been stated on this board a few times before. And the advantage of 10 cents to $1 when the price is upwards of $3500 is not clear, sorry. I'm not one to just make things up, what I said above is based off of years of knowledgeable people telling me the same. But, uh... don't let that knock you off your high horse.
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Unread post by jsgksu » Sat Jul 23, 2005 1:13 pm

fortyoneantz wrote:next time i see him at school playing raquetball with my strength and conditioning coach i'm going to ask him to hook it up
you see him somewhat consistently?

did he go to your school or something? thats crazy
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bbatsell wrote:
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bbatsell wrote:
GrateDMB21 wrote:The only negative to that guitar, I would say is the saddle/nut. Its made out of compensated tusq. You think with that price, they can at least upgrade to bone. O well...still a beautiful guitar, especially that flamed koa strip and the headstock is quite different than the norm.
Unless I'm mistaken, any mass-produced guitar by the big companies is going to have Tusq. DM3MD had Tusq. 914's have Tusq. It's not because they can't afford bone or ivory, obviously if you're paying that kind of price, then they could throw that in - it's because bone and ivory are pretty inconsistent. Each guitar reacts differently to a different piece of bone, and requires significant setup by a good luthier. They obviously can't afford to do that.
You are actually very mistaken. First, the DM3MD has Micarta, which is similar to Tusq, both man-made products. Bone and Ivory are WAY more consistent and WAY more durable than Micarta and Tusq. The reason why big manufacturer's tend to use these materials is because they are cheap. For example, Taylor guitars produced about 80,000 guitars last year. If a Tusq saddle cost Taylor guitars .10 cents, and a bone saddle cost them $1.00, it's clear to see the advantages. It's all about cost cutting measures. Bone, Walrus Ivory, Elephant Ivory, and Hippo Ivory are harder materials that transfer sound more purely, and are far more resistant to chipping and "grooving" in the slots.

You can read about it here:

http://www.guitarsaddles.com

And if you research Martin and Taylor's super high-end guitars, which borderline custom guitars (like the Taylor T5), they come with bone saddles already installed. It's all economics my friend.
I was wrong about the Micarta, but I've actually been told about the bone inconsistency being the reason they don't ship standard by two luthiers in person, and that's been stated on this board a few times before. And the advantage of 10 cents to $1 when the price is upwards of $3500 is not clear, sorry. I'm not one to just make things up, what I said above is based off of years of knowledgeable people telling me the same. But, uh... don't let that knock you off your high horse.
yep also the bone wouldnt cost them that much, if you look that yes taylor did sell 80,000 guitars last year, the same type of saddle could be used. thusly they could just order them out the ass and itd be cheaper.

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Unread post by whatshername » Sat Jul 23, 2005 1:16 pm

yeah i see him all the time. he and my strength and conditioning coach are buddies. they workout together and play raquetball all the time. phish formed at UVM..they played their first concert in my dining hall. and trey lives in burlington. and my friend caitlin works at higher ground where they played concerts all the time in the 80s and she's actually on a first name basis with him.
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