Dashboard Confessional (New Question about tuning)

[Brock]

that's Hz, not MHz, just to clarify

[i-am-me]

So I was trying to tune my guitar into some of the weird tunings last nihgt. I have the black Korg tuner that costs like $18 or whatever.

When how do you tune a note to flat. At first I was tuning it to -20 cents, then I realized that on some strings it would say the note where it normally does, but the it had a "b" next to it. So I tuned those to the dead middle when I could.
And some strings (B) wouldnt let me tune it into a Db.

lastly, why when some people tab it they say it is tuned in DADddd
why are some D's and some d's? sorry, i just am very inexperiences in different tunings but want to learn.

alex....i'm asking this question out of curiousity. don't be offended. do you konw actual notes? do you understand that say...C# and Db are the same thing? i think that's what might be confusing you.

I'm glad you said something, its one of those things I knew but I completely wasnt thinking about it. If i looked logically i'd think that C to D is a full step and going sharp or flat would be the half step inbetween, but I never made that connection that they are the same note. thanks.

what order does notation go in? I can never remember them all.

btw, i still dont get why sometimes my tuner will tune a note to flat or sharp, but then other times it wont tune it to that.

here

C, D, E, F, G, A, B, C

now realize that inbetween C and D you have C# or Db (both the same thing) and between A and B you have A# or Bb. again the same thing.

ask if you need more help.

[czech]

So I was trying to tune my guitar into some of the weird tunings last nihgt. I have the black Korg tuner that costs like $18 or whatever.

When how do you tune a note to flat. At first I was tuning it to -20 cents, then I realized that on some strings it would say the note where it normally does, but the it had a "b" next to it. So I tuned those to the dead middle when I could.
And some strings (B) wouldnt let me tune it into a Db.

lastly, why when some people tab it they say it is tuned in DADddd
why are some D's and some d's? sorry, i just am very inexperiences in different tunings but want to learn.

alex....i'm asking this question out of curiousity. don't be offended. do you konw actual notes? do you understand that say...C# and Db are the same thing? i think that's what might be confusing you.

I'm glad you said something, its one of those things I knew but I completely wasnt thinking about it. If i looked logically i'd think that C to D is a full step and going sharp or flat would be the half step inbetween, but I never made that connection that they are the same note. thanks.

what order does notation go in? I can never remember them all.

btw, i still dont get why sometimes my tuner will tune a note to flat or sharp, but then other times it wont tune it to that.

here

C, D, E, F, G, A, B, C

now realize that inbetween C and D you have C# or Db (both the same thing) and between A and B you have A# or Bb. again the same thing.

ask if you need more help.

so those ntoes are going from higher to lower?

[MWR]

The fancy word for this is Enharmonic- "Of, relating to, or involving tones that are identical in pitch but are written differently according to the key in which they occur, as C sharp and D flat, for example."

The most important thing to remember that there's a half step between E and F and B and C. That's why you won't see E#, Fb, B#, or Cb on any chromatic tuner.
If a song is in a flat key then you would use flats not sharps. So the key of F has one flat (Bb), it would be a misnomer to call that Bb an A# even though they are the same note.
Tuners just don't know what note you're looking for when it comes to these enharmonic notes.

[czech]

The fancy word for this is Enharmonic- "Of, relating to, or involving tones that are identical in pitch but are written differently according to the key in which they occur, as C sharp and D flat, for example."

The most important thing to remember that there's a half step between E and F and B and C. That's why you won't see E#, Fb, B#, or Cb on any chromatic tuner.
If a song is in a flat key then you would use flats not sharps. So the key of F has one flat (Bb), it would be a misnomer to call that Bb an A# even though they are the same note.
Tuners just don't know what note you're looking for when it comes to these enharmonic notes.

wait, so theres only a half step between e and f and b and c??
i thought all notes were a full step apart.

[Machtimus]

The fancy word for this is Enharmonic- "Of, relating to, or involving tones that are identical in pitch but are written differently according to the key in which they occur, as C sharp and D flat, for example."

The most important thing to remember that there's a half step between E and F and B and C. That's why you won't see E#, Fb, B#, or Cb on any chromatic tuner.
If a song is in a flat key then you would use flats not sharps. So the key of F has one flat (Bb), it would be a misnomer to call that Bb an A# even though they are the same note.
Tuners just don't know what note you're looking for when it comes to these enharmonic notes.

wait, so theres only a half step between e and f and b and c??
i thought all notes were a full step apart.

Half step becuase there are no sharps or flats inbetween them. Think of it like frets on a guitar. Moving two steps would be considered a whole step, one fret would be considered half step. So E to F is only moving one fret thus half a step. Not sure if that cleared anything up

[czech]

it did. thanks

[marchingant26]

so i guess what were all trying to say here is that he's a great writer but a sucky musician...right?

[fatjack]

so i guess what were all trying to say here is that he's a great writer but a sucky musician...right?

im pretty sure i said he sucked at both

[sk8r]

i think its so cool that checkii likes dash. idk you just dont seem the type completely. but its all good. i used to be a huge fan. i've seen em 4 times and i met chris once.

[czech]

i dont exactly look like your stereotypical dmb fan either. actually i hate 90% of dmb fans. I love everyone at this site cause you guys obviously dig the music, not the gimic or scene.

[czech]

ok, i was playing this one jason mraz song yesterday and the song is in Drop D tuning with a capo on the second.

so i thought in theory I could just play in regular tuning witht he cpo upside down on the ADGBe strings and leaving the E open. but it just didnt sound right at all. is nmy logic wrong or was my guitar just out of tune and i wasnt payign attention.

[StarSlight]

I'm assuming you're using a Kyser quick-change capo?

Well, as great as those are for their quickness and whatnot, they make every string a little sharp. With the capo on all strings, they all go a little sharp, so they still sound mostly in tune with eachother.

But if one string is un-capo'd, it's not going to be sharp like the rest are. Have you tried re-tuning after you put the capo on?

[czech]

I'm assuming you're using a Kyser quick-change capo?

Well, as great as those are for their quickness and whatnot, they make every string a little sharp. With the capo on all strings, they all go a little sharp, so they still sound mostly in tune with eachother.

But if one string is un-capo'd, it's not going to be sharp like the rest are. Have you tried re-tuning after you put the capo on?

interesting.

this is the exact capo i have


Did you mean just retuning the E? I'm assuming so, but i... ..i dunno. tired at work.


Either way, if i have to retune I might as well just put it in drop D since i play it that way half the time now anyways.

But if it weren't for the shaps, would I have been right in thinking that it would play the same?

[StarSlight]

Oh, sorry. I completely missed what you were saying there. Answered a totally different sort of thing.

Yeah, the fingerings would be the same, except for anything played on that E string. If you fret the E string at the 5th fret, you get an A. But if it's tuned down to D, then you get a G. The capo doesn't really matter when you're fretting notes in front of it.

So you would finger everything the same as you would in drop D, except you'll have to move everything played on the low E string down two frets.