dave and stefan

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 11:09 pm

MartiniTime wrote:they have, Deed Is Done 10.4.95

http://s50.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2FXJ ... IXFR9X97QF

Martini, between this and the courner of grey street, you are my favorite person who recently joined the boards. Thanks for the uploads, I really appriciate and will try and keep uploading things myself for the benifit of the boards. Thanks again dude.

dmfollower · Post by **dmfollower** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 2:47 am

DMBassist52 wrote:
MartiniTime wrote:they have, Deed Is Done 10.4.95

http://s50.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2FXJ ... IXFR9X97QF
Martini, between this and the courner of grey street, you are my favorite person who recently joined the boards. Thanks for the uploads, I really appriciate and will try and keep uploading things myself for the benifit of the boards. Thanks again dude.

Me too, as soon as i figure out that yousendit shit

crush40 · Post by **crush40** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 1:22 pm

I hate to sound anti-DMB, but I would have to say I don't care much for Stefan. His solos absolutely suck...he ruined Watchtower at CP. Granted, he sounds very good WITH the band, but that's where he should stay. His solos just don't work...minus the crush intro...but that's hardly a solo. For some reason, I've always just got the vibe that he was the odd-ball of the group...he always wants the band to go to a more "pop" mainstream way. The cover of Stand Up is a great example...it looks like a frickin Jay-Z album cover!!!

bassman462 · Post by **bassman462** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 1:52 pm

crush40 wrote:I hate to sound anti-DMB, but I would have to say I don't care much for Stefan. His solos absolutely suck...he ruined Watchtower at CP. Granted, he sounds very good WITH the band, but that's where he should stay. His solos just don't work...minus the crush intro...but that's hardly a solo. For some reason, I've always just got the vibe that he was the odd-ball of the group...he always wants the band to go to a more "pop" mainstream way. The cover of Stand Up is a great example...it looks like a frickin Jay-Z album cover!!!

get ready for some totally flaming...

...i agree though stefan isnt that great...but the album cover thing no...i dont think jay-z uses a firedancer on his album cover

Nitro1515 · Post by **Nitro1515** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 2:21 pm

crush40 wrote:I hate to sound anti-DMB, but I would have to say I don't care much for Stefan. His solos absolutely suck...he ruined Watchtower at CP. Granted, he sounds very good WITH the band, but that's where he should stay. His solos just don't work...minus the crush intro...but that's hardly a solo. For some reason, I've always just got the vibe that he was the odd-ball of the group...he always wants the band to go to a more "pop" mainstream way. The cover of Stand Up is a great example...it looks like a frickin Jay-Z album cover!!!

What does the cover have to do with anything. Although they say Stefan collaborated with an artist for the cover all it is in actuality is an updated version of an old Dave drawing so if any is to blame for the cover its Dave.

Brock · Post by **Brock** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 6:27 pm

crush40 wrote:I hate to sound anti-DMB, but I would have to say I don't care much for Stefan. His solos absolutely suck...he ruined Watchtower at CP. Granted, he sounds very good WITH the band, but that's where he should stay. His solos just don't work...minus the crush intro...but that's hardly a solo. For some reason, I've always just got the vibe that he was the odd-ball of the group...he always wants the band to go to a more "pop" mainstream way. The cover of Stand Up is a great example...it looks like a frickin Jay-Z album cover!!!

The cover is THE symbol that has represented the Dave Matthews Band for over 15 years... if that's not appropriate than I'm not sure what exactly is good enough for you.

And his solos suck? Ugh. Coming from a musician who actually plays guitar, bass, and piano, Stefan is one of the most musically-sound members of the band (I'd rate him #2 behind Carter).

sk8r · Post by **sk8r** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 7:16 pm

bbatsell wrote:
crush40 wrote:I hate to sound anti-DMB, but I would have to say I don't care much for Stefan. His solos absolutely suck...he ruined Watchtower at CP. Granted, he sounds very good WITH the band, but that's where he should stay. His solos just don't work...minus the crush intro...but that's hardly a solo. For some reason, I've always just got the vibe that he was the odd-ball of the group...he always wants the band to go to a more "pop" mainstream way. The cover of Stand Up is a great example...it looks like a frickin Jay-Z album cover!!!
The cover is THE symbol that has represented the Dave Matthews Band for over 15 years... if that's not appropriate than I'm not sure what exactly is good enough for you.

And his solos suck? Ugh. Coming from a musician who actually plays guitar, bass, and piano, Stefan is one of the most musically-sound members of the band (I'd rate him #2 behind Carter).

agreed on the final point about him being second behind carter but tot eh firs point about him being the odd man out in the group. he is the bassist. generally bassists are the ones who fit in a little less than the rest

crush40 · Post by **crush40** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 9:06 am

The cover is THE symbol that has represented the Dave Matthews Band for over 15 years... if that's not appropriate than I'm not sure what exactly is good enough for you.

And his solos suck? Ugh. Coming from a musician who actually plays guitar, bass, and piano, Stefan is one of the most musically-sound members of the band (I'd rate him #2 behind Carter).[/quote]

Actually, I wasn't referring to the firedancer...I was referring to the CHROME firedancer. C'mon, since when do we associate DMB with all black and some bling bling?! That's just the impression that I get when I see the album cover.

And as for his solos, and you being a musician...to each his/her own. I don't care how difficult his solos might be, (I can pull the musician card, too), I just don't like them. You can't honestly tell me that listening to his intro on CP (minus the star-spangled banner) that all that distortion and shit really sounded good. I was there right up front, and everyone around was looking at each other like "damn...he's messing this up." Even Dave was looking at him like..."?"

So anyway...yeah, Stefan can play, but I just don't like his solos.

crush40 · Post by **crush40** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 9:09 am

I think Victor Wooten should be on hand to jump on stage for any bass solos...and then stefan can jump back in and play the regular parts.

fishmonkeyfan · Post by **fishmonkeyfan** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 9:28 am

I completely agree with crush40, the central park watchtower was destroyed because of fonzi and dave did look pissed, watch the dvd, and granted it was only one mistake, lets be honest, all of his baselines have stayed the same since day 1, not a lot of improv, and listen to his solos going all the way back in the early dmb days

pelle · Post by **pelle** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 9:52 am

Stefan is the man

SugarWill · Post by **SugarWill** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 10:02 am

As for stefan the CP intro did kinda blow...but i dunno i just dont like the same intro for watchtower he does at every concert its played at

NJPearce22 · Post by **NJPearce22** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 11:57 am

fishmonkeyfan wrote:I completely agree with crush40, the central park watchtower was destroyed because of fonzi and dave did look pissed, watch the dvd, and granted it was only one mistake, lets be honest, all of his baselines have stayed the same since day 1, not a lot of improv, and listen to his solos going all the way back in the early dmb days

Not a lot of improv??? I hear things that I have never heard before every time I see them live. If you really focus on Stefan, you'll hear what I mean. And I'd like to hear you do a better bass solo then him!

i like tictacs · Post by **i like tictacs** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 11:59 am

fishmonkeyfan wrote:, all of his baselines have stayed the same since day 1, not a lot of improv, and listen to his solos going all the way back in the early dmb days

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GSR · Post by **GSR** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 12:17 pm

i like tictacs wrote:
fishmonkeyfan wrote:, all of his baselines have stayed the same since day 1, not a lot of improv, and listen to his solos going all the way back in the early dmb days
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mike, i'm going to throw up reading these posts..