The stone

i drank the water · Post by **i drank the water** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 7:49 pm

Ive read the topics where everyone posts the hardest song by dave they know, and one of the common ones is the stone. It took me awhile to get satelite down, and ryhme and reason down, but the stone seems easy. Can anyone explain why the stone is hard for them or for other people?

Davy28 · Post by **Davy28** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 8:02 pm

Its a stretch that few people can manage with ease, the timing is a tad tricky, and singing along with the main riff takes a long to time to gain competance.

davembfan85 · Post by **davembfan85** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 8:14 pm

Yeah, I understand what he's saying. The Stone was the first song I could fully play and sing at the same time, less than 2 months after I first picked up a guitar. I couldn't even get the timing on crash until 4-5 months after. Piece of cake now though :-p

jsgksu · Post by **jsgksu** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 8:16 pm

the little pause in the middle of the song always fucked me up, I played it wrong for years and I just got myself reconditioned to play it the right way but I still screw it up sometimes, its a hard one.

globex · Post by **globex** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 10:13 pm

Im learning it right now. Having difficulty playing it to tempo on the verse. However I don't think it's the hardest song. The hardest for me is definatly Fool To Think. It's just way too fast.

Davy28 · Post by **Davy28** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 11:41 pm

globex wrote:Im learning it right now. Having difficulty playing it to tempo on the verse. However I don't think it's the hardest song. The hardest for me is definatly Fool To Think. It's just way too fast.

I'll have to agree on that. The fingering is really goofy but that beneroya video posted a while back helps.

mrjones · Post by **mrjones** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 11:56 pm

the stone intro was easy for me. the first time i played it, it was recognizable. playing the verse a whole bunch of times is hard. i can play the stone the whole way through, only during the 1st verse i cant play the part where he goes into the intro the 2nd time. my pinkie starts to hurt too bad to get it down ritght

aleceiffel · Post by **aleceiffel** » Fri Jun 24, 2005 12:30 am

i don't know, i just can't really play it. i can sort of muddle through it but i can't get the muting right and it sounds very sloppy and amateurish. it the hardest one for me out of the ones i know. haven't tried fool to think though.

dmfollower · Post by **dmfollower** » Fri Jun 24, 2005 3:10 am

The stone was a really funny thing for me cause for the longest time i couldn't play it due to the timing, it just through me the fuck off. Then, one day i noticed that the stone(intro/verse) is Drive in Drive out. Once i told myself that, it came soo smoothly it was embarrasing

After practicing the ending, the droning d+t ending, the stone is one of the songs i play everyday.
As for Fool to Think, the into/verse is easy. It's the chorus that throws you off cause its not really like any other dave tunes. Its a little like Crush but not really. Once you become comfortable with dave's style, all you have to do is sit down and focus on whatever part you want to learn and you'll be suprised how much your hand remembers

mlb1399 · Post by **mlb1399** » Fri Jun 24, 2005 7:49 am

It also depends how long you have been playing before you start playing this song. If you haven't been playing long and try this song it would be difficult. Some people are better at some songs while other songs might be more difficult for them. For instance, the stone was a piece of cake for me but warehouse took forever.

mrjones · Post by **mrjones** » Fri Jun 24, 2005 11:25 am

the stone was good for me when i started learning it. it took a lot of practice but now i can play it with exactly pat's video. ive havent tried FTT or drive in drive out, but trippin billies verse is so hard for me. if i try to play it, its so slow and bad you wouldnt be able to recognize it if i told what song it was

pman13a · Post by **pman13a** » Fri Jun 24, 2005 4:53 pm

ive got the song down great and also the singing is fine. The only thing is i suck at singing

i like tictacs · Post by **i like tictacs** » Fri Jun 24, 2005 11:57 pm

if you aren't toooo anal about playing fool to think EXACTLY as dave does, and blah blah blah moan moan and piss piss, play the second group of three notes up higher on the E string instead of jumping around to the A string. not too much harder, but the frets are smaller up top, its easier to finger, and harder to fuck up via hitting the wrong strings.

much easier for whatever reason to strum, mute and play it that way.

ghillie · Post by **ghillie** » Sat Jun 25, 2005 1:02 am

dmfollower wrote:...Then, one day i noticed that the stone(intro/verse) is Drive in Drive out. Once i told myself that, it came soo smoothly it was embarrasing ...

Yeah... I tried to learn it by ear, and I kinda ripped on Drive in, Drive Out...

globex · Post by **globex** » Sat Jun 25, 2005 2:00 am

Another thing, is that the strumming pattern for the stone is similar to the strumming style of Stand Up, so you can try to learn those two songs silmuntaneously (sp?)