so lets do the theory thing

gcom007 · Post by **gcom007** » Mon Dec 09, 2002 1:26 am

6StringSamurai wrote:ok, ive been listening to a pretty cool acoustic version of all along the watctower, in which tim pull a cool solo how do i figure out what hes playing without using a tab. Should i just solo in the key of the chords of the song? like A G F G or based of scales or what?

You can't just go from point A to F...you've gotta start from the beginning...

MattyTrane · Post by **MattyTrane** » Mon Dec 09, 2002 9:16 am

i like the signature but thats about it.... ^ didnt help me much

Xoosh · Post by **Xoosh** » Mon Dec 09, 2002 10:35 am

coming soon... the theory behind tim's solos so that you dont have to play his solo verbatum but if you understand his theory (the plan is to do a "theory grimoir" style and to do a theory section in Laman's terms .. hehe spelling.. yuck) you can do whatever you wish if you want to keep that style...

/x

gcom007 · Post by **gcom007** » Mon Dec 09, 2002 3:43 pm

Xoosh wrote:coming soon... the theory behind tim's solos so that you dont have to play his solo verbatum but if you understand his theory (the plan is to do a "theory grimoir" style and to do a theory section in Laman's terms .. hehe spelling.. yuck) you can do whatever you wish if you want to keep that style...

/x

how are you planning to do that?

MattyTrane · Post by **MattyTrane** » Mon Dec 09, 2002 6:54 pm

Digger read the top about my specific qustion.

gravedigger · Post by **gravedigger** » Mon Dec 09, 2002 6:58 pm

6StringSamurai wrote:Digger read the top about my specific qustion.

I did

I don't have a fuckin' clue

I meant questions on Theory - not how to play Tim Reynolds shit. there's a thread for that.

MattyTrane · Post by **MattyTrane** » Mon Dec 09, 2002 7:23 pm

ok bad example, how would you devise a solo based on the song and its chords and all that?

gcom007 · Post by **gcom007** » Mon Dec 09, 2002 8:32 pm

6StringSamurai wrote:ok bad example, how would you devise a solo based on the song and its chords and all that?

learn theory!!! that is how!

gravedigger · Post by **gravedigger** » Tue Dec 10, 2002 12:42 am

6StringSamurai wrote:ok bad example, how would you devise a solo based on the song and its chords and all that?

I don't know. I'm not a lead guitarist. my guess would be, oh I dunno, play around in the scale of the chords that's being played, or maybe even the Fifth of the chord that's being played. If the rhythm section is on F, than the lead guy would fool around on the F scale or maybe even in Bb or maybe in Dm which is the relative minor of F (they share the same key signature.

F scale - notes are: F G A Bb C D E
Bb scale - notes are: Bb C D Eb F G A
Dm scale - notes are: D E F G A Bb C

notice the similarities in the notes. that's the natural Dm scale. the harmonic minor scale has the leading tone sharpened by a semi tone so that's its a C# instead of C. and in melodic minor scale, both 6th and 7th scale degrees are sharpened by a semi tone. that's the sub mediant and leading tone respectively. the melodic minor trys to mimic the major scale, where as the natural minor has a more sombre, melancholy sound to it.

MattyTrane · Post by **MattyTrane** » Tue Dec 10, 2002 12:44 am

cool thanks, what i caught made a lot of sense.

MattyTrane · Post by **MattyTrane** » Tue Dec 10, 2002 12:46 am

[quote="gcom007

learn theory!!! that is how![/quote]
lol thanks g

gravedigger · Post by **gravedigger** » Tue Dec 10, 2002 12:53 am

6StringSamurai wrote:[quote="gcom007

learn theory!!! that is how!

lol thanks g

[/quote]

damn, I made a mistake in the post just above. the fifth of F is C, and not Bb. Bb is a perfect 4th above F, and I guess that'd also work but the notes of the C major scale are, C D E F G A B that was easy.

MattyTrane · Post by **MattyTrane** » Tue Dec 10, 2002 1:03 am

grrrr i boofed the quote, oh well.

gcom007 · Post by **gcom007** » Tue Dec 10, 2002 1:32 am

nobody wants to work for anything these days, they just want it to be handed to them on a silver platter, it's sad...

MattyTrane · Post by **MattyTrane** » Tue Dec 10, 2002 1:52 am

reffering to me again?