What DMB Song Could You Replace Dave On?

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Unread post by lyrics101 » Mon May 23, 2005 7:56 pm

acousticraven wrote:if you can match him note for note, you shouldn't be sitting here BS'ing on a computer.. you should be making records $$$
That's a cheap cop-out. a) Can you write as well as Dave? I certainly can't, at least not in his style. b) Have you been discovered if you can? c) Do you have a crowd of incredible jazz musicians around you?

Timmy's a much, much better guitarist than Dave is, but guess who's making more money? Dave.
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Unread post by topgun17 » Mon May 23, 2005 8:20 pm

c'mon people be reasonable, you can play it just like the guy that wrote the song? i bet not, i mean everyone has their own style and i dare say no one can match his note for note.
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Unread post by lyrics101 » Mon May 23, 2005 8:31 pm

topgun17 wrote:c'mon people be reasonable, you can play it just like the guy that wrote the song? i bet not, i mean everyone has their own style and i dare say no one can match his note for note.
It's music. There's a reason music can be written on sheet music. My sister's a pianist, and she can play Fur Elise on the piano note for note the way it was written. It might not have the same spirit and mood, but note for note it is exactly the same. So yes, people can play music note for note the way the writer can.
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Unread post by Davy28 » Mon May 23, 2005 8:32 pm

Too Much. Using my improv skills, I have been able to double or even triple the amount of different fills at my command that come after the F#m chords. That is my most favorite song to play drunk, when the absence of pain allows me to play limitlessly, however sloppy when boozed.
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Forget about the notion that our emotions can be swept away, kept at bay
Forget about being guilty, we are innocent instead
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Unread post by mrjones » Mon May 23, 2005 8:50 pm

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topgun17 wrote:c'mon people be reasonable, you can play it just like the guy that wrote the song? i bet not, i mean everyone has their own style and i dare say no one can match his note for note.
It's music. There's a reason music can be written on sheet music. My sister's a pianist, and she can play Fur Elise on the piano note for note the way it was written. It might not have the same spirit and mood, but note for note it is exactly the same. So yes, people can play music note for note the way the writer can.
i dont know much of piano, but the timiing of slides and hammerons and strumming cannot be 100 percent dulplicated evertime. strumming and slides and hammerons arent on the piano and dont show up well in sheet music
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Unread post by jsgksu » Mon May 23, 2005 8:55 pm

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jsgksu wrote:Any of you who are saying most of them (or any of them for that matter) are mostly retarded. If you think you could take over for Dave on guitar and no one would notice, you need your head examined.
Or they're better at the guitar than you are.

Gimme Dave's setup so it has the same sharp sound to it, and I could take over on any of the songs that I know/still play regularly. Mostly Two Step, The Stone, and Tripping Billies. Outside of those, I don't play as much DM as I used to.
Ha, Im sure if you were up on stage playing Two Step or Billies with Daves setup, I wouldnt even be able to notice. I understand people are better than me, Im not denying that, but to think you could take over his setup and no one could tell its you, thats just arrogance and ignorance.
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Unread post by cruz610 » Mon May 23, 2005 8:59 pm

Coldchillin23222 wrote:I don't believe so. Certainly not near what he used to.
Hah. Did you see him on the Carson Daly show? I mean, WOW. That guy is retarded, so if he doesn't smoke now then WOW. At least the weed gives him a reason lol.
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Unread post by Brock » Mon May 23, 2005 8:59 pm

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topgun17 wrote:c'mon people be reasonable, you can play it just like the guy that wrote the song? i bet not, i mean everyone has their own style and i dare say no one can match his note for note.
It's music. There's a reason music can be written on sheet music. My sister's a pianist, and she can play Fur Elise on the piano note for note the way it was written. It might not have the same spirit and mood, but note for note it is exactly the same. So yes, people can play music note for note the way the writer can.
i dont know much of piano, but the timiing of slides and hammerons and strumming cannot be 100 percent dulplicated evertime. strumming and slides and hammerons arent on the piano and dont show up well in sheet music
have you ever used sheet music to play guitar? i'm going to guess that you've only used tab, which by design doesn't even address rhythm or timing, which sheet music most definitely does. if you can sight-read sheet music perfectly, then you can most definitely play a song perfectly that has been transcribed, as that's the whole point of sheet music.
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Unread post by dmbguitar718 » Mon May 23, 2005 9:08 pm

How did I know this thread would turn out like this.
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Unread post by gravesRR7 » Mon May 23, 2005 9:32 pm

okay, this thread is almost pointless now. i guess no one can play it EXACTLY like dave, for many reasons. and dave is almost guranteed better than all of us.

but i guess the point of the topic is to see what songs you could play almost flawlessly, with the same rythm, sexyness, etc that dave has.

most of us could probobly tell it wasn't dave, but the basic idea is still the same.

we should do a contest of not one cover, but the main parts of a bunch of songs, and really see who can live up to their claims.

eh?
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Unread post by Nitro1515 » Mon May 23, 2005 9:37 pm

gravesRR7 wrote:okay, this thread is almost pointless now. i guess no one can play it EXACTLY like dave, for many reasons. and dave is almost guranteed better than all of us.

but i guess the point of the topic is to see what songs you could play almost flawlessly, with the same rythm, sexyness, etc that dave has.

most of us could probobly tell it wasn't dave, but the basic idea is still the same.

we should do a contest of not one cover, but the main parts of a bunch of songs, and really see who can live up to their claims.

eh?
Yeah what I meant with the thread was if you were playing at a concert in front of regular fans not people who play music like all of us. Obviously we could all tell it wasn't Dave, but I'll bet we could fool a lot of non-musician fans on certain songs. And as for a cover contest as long as it doesn't involve singing I'm in.

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Unread post by acousticraven » Mon May 23, 2005 9:39 pm

lyrics101 wrote:
acousticraven wrote:if you can match him note for note, you shouldn't be sitting here BS'ing on a computer.. you should be making records $$$
That's a cheap cop-out. a) Can you write as well as Dave? I certainly can't, at least not in his style. b) Have you been discovered if you can? c) Do you have a crowd of incredible jazz musicians around you?

Timmy's a much, much better guitarist than Dave is, but guess who's making more money? Dave.
Learn to laugh and take a joke man.. this is a bad thread IMO.. ego trips galore here
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Unread post by Nitro1515 » Mon May 23, 2005 10:08 pm

acousticraven wrote:Learn to laugh and take a joke man.. this is a bad thread IMO.. ego trips galore here
Who is being arrogant? Some people are confidant in their playing ability on certain songs, what is wrong with that? There have got to be some people on here who could play certain songs almost identical to Dave. Take Big Eyed Fish for example its such a simple song, just 4 chords. Are you telling me there isnt one of us on here who could take Dave's place on that song without anyone really hearing a difference in a full band setting. Somebody like Pat could easily do it.

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Unread post by hcole » Tue May 24, 2005 12:51 pm

dmbguitar718 wrote:How did I know this thread would turn out like this.
Because alot of people here place Dave on an untouchable pedestal. People can replicate Dave's sound/style. Tim did it on UTTAD. I would be willing to bet that if Pat went into the studio with DMB and practiced with them a little he would be able to fool most of (if not all) the people on this board. Singing while playing is another story.

Outside his circle of fans I think Dave's abilities are not given enough credit, but IMO he is way overrated on this board.

EDIT: I couldn't replace him on anything, I suck goat balls and I know it.

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Unread post by mrjones » Tue May 24, 2005 5:28 pm

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mrjones wrote:
lyrics101 wrote:
topgun17 wrote:c'mon people be reasonable, you can play it just like the guy that wrote the song? i bet not, i mean everyone has their own style and i dare say no one can match his note for note.
It's music. There's a reason music can be written on sheet music. My sister's a pianist, and she can play Fur Elise on the piano note for note the way it was written. It might not have the same spirit and mood, but note for note it is exactly the same. So yes, people can play music note for note the way the writer can.
i dont know much of piano, but the timiing of slides and hammerons and strumming cannot be 100 percent dulplicated evertime. strumming and slides and hammerons arent on the piano and dont show up well in sheet music
you are correct in saying that i have never used sheet music. what i was quessing is that the timing of slides isnt shown well. ive glanced at sheet music and to me it seemed that way.
have you ever used sheet music to play guitar? i'm going to guess that you've only used tab, which by design doesn't even address rhythm or timing, which sheet music most definitely does. if you can sight-read sheet music perfectly, then you can most definitely play a song perfectly that has been transcribed, as that's the whole point of sheet music.
For us living any other ways was nuts. with all the goodie-goodies working shitty jobs for bum pay checks, took the subway work and worried about their bills were dead. they were suckers, they had no balls. if we wanted something we just took it, and if anybody complained twice they got hit so hard believe me they never complained again

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