aleceiffel wrote:now, i don't play the drums, but i play the air drums a lot. good exercise and a -great- stress reliever. and i have a rule that if i can't even air drum a song, with no drumsticks in my hands, then damn but that's some crazy drumming.
despite playing the guitar, i've always felt that the drums really drive a band, and i really hate boring drummers. i mean, just think of what the dave matthews band would be without carter. or imagine what pink floydcould have been if they had had a really good drummer!
so anyways, what's your take on the most intense, most unrelenting song to try to drum? excluding songs with drum solos, cause that's too obvious an answer. just songs where the drums really truly lead the music and make the song X times better in the process.
for my pick, i'm going with Jethro Tull - Cold Wind to Valhalla. you drumming guys should really check this one out and try to learn it. and if you can, then seriously, instead of posting on here, you should be earning hundreds of dollars a day doing studio work with famous musicians.
Yeah, Pink Floyd could have been a legendary classic rock band........oh wait, they are.
Beauford33 wrote:Anything Art Blakey. That guy is fucking amazing. Im really goping back thourhm my albums of his and he just makes everyone else just go to waste. Him and Tony Williams. But when I play these tunes...I got to go all out. If you've ever heard these guys, they just rip through. Art just beats the crap out of his set. I have to work harder when I play these tunes then for any tune named. These two guys are just amazing. IMO, better then any of the drummer previously mentioned. Just amazing.
I have heard these drummers and are respectable and classic for sure. What recordings do you suggest? Like partiular songs..
"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds" - Albert Einstein
"They are ill discoverers that think that there is no land if they see nothing but a sea." —Francis Bacon
aleceiffel wrote:now, i don't play the drums, but i play the air drums a lot. good exercise and a -great- stress reliever. and i have a rule that if i can't even air drum a song, with no drumsticks in my hands, then damn but that's some crazy drumming.
despite playing the guitar, i've always felt that the drums really drive a band, and i really hate boring drummers. i mean, just think of what the dave matthews band would be without carter. or imagine what pink floydcould have been if they had had a really good drummer!
so anyways, what's your take on the most intense, most unrelenting song to try to drum? excluding songs with drum solos, cause that's too obvious an answer. just songs where the drums really truly lead the music and make the song X times better in the process.
for my pick, i'm going with Jethro Tull - Cold Wind to Valhalla. you drumming guys should really check this one out and try to learn it. and if you can, then seriously, instead of posting on here, you should be earning hundreds of dollars a day doing studio work with famous musicians.
Yeah, Pink Floyd could have been a legendary classic rock band........oh wait, they are.
Could have been beter IMO with a legendary classic rock drummer
"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds" - Albert Einstein
"They are ill discoverers that think that there is no land if they see nothing but a sea." —Francis Bacon
aleceiffel wrote:now, i don't play the drums, but i play the air drums a lot. good exercise and a -great- stress reliever. and i have a rule that if i can't even air drum a song, with no drumsticks in my hands, then damn but that's some crazy drumming.
despite playing the guitar, i've always felt that the drums really drive a band, and i really hate boring drummers. i mean, just think of what the dave matthews band would be without carter. or imagine what pink floydcould have been if they had had a really good drummer!
so anyways, what's your take on the most intense, most unrelenting song to try to drum? excluding songs with drum solos, cause that's too obvious an answer. just songs where the drums really truly lead the music and make the song X times better in the process.
for my pick, i'm going with Jethro Tull - Cold Wind to Valhalla. you drumming guys should really check this one out and try to learn it. and if you can, then seriously, instead of posting on here, you should be earning hundreds of dollars a day doing studio work with famous musicians.
Yeah, Pink Floyd could have been a legendary classic rock band........oh wait, they are.
Could have been beter IMO with a legendary classic rock drummer
I don't think Floyd really wanted their drumming to stick out though, if you listen to them you'll know that for the most part, they were going for more of an ambient drum sound.
aleceiffel wrote:now, i don't play the drums, but i play the air drums a lot. good exercise and a -great- stress reliever. and i have a rule that if i can't even air drum a song, with no drumsticks in my hands, then damn but that's some crazy drumming.
despite playing the guitar, i've always felt that the drums really drive a band, and i really hate boring drummers. i mean, just think of what the dave matthews band would be without carter. or imagine what pink floydcould have been if they had had a really good drummer!
so anyways, what's your take on the most intense, most unrelenting song to try to drum? excluding songs with drum solos, cause that's too obvious an answer. just songs where the drums really truly lead the music and make the song X times better in the process.
for my pick, i'm going with Jethro Tull - Cold Wind to Valhalla. you drumming guys should really check this one out and try to learn it. and if you can, then seriously, instead of posting on here, you should be earning hundreds of dollars a day doing studio work with famous musicians.
Yeah, Pink Floyd could have been a legendary classic rock band........oh wait, they are.
yeah, that's what they are, but i was talking about what they could have been.
aleceiffel wrote:now, i don't play the drums, but i play the air drums a lot. good exercise and a -great- stress reliever. and i have a rule that if i can't even air drum a song, with no drumsticks in my hands, then damn but that's some crazy drumming.
despite playing the guitar, i've always felt that the drums really drive a band, and i really hate boring drummers. i mean, just think of what the dave matthews band would be without carter. or imagine what pink floydcould have been if they had had a really good drummer!
so anyways, what's your take on the most intense, most unrelenting song to try to drum? excluding songs with drum solos, cause that's too obvious an answer. just songs where the drums really truly lead the music and make the song X times better in the process.
for my pick, i'm going with Jethro Tull - Cold Wind to Valhalla. you drumming guys should really check this one out and try to learn it. and if you can, then seriously, instead of posting on here, you should be earning hundreds of dollars a day doing studio work with famous musicians.
Yeah, Pink Floyd could have been a legendary classic rock band........oh wait, they are.
Could have been beter IMO with a legendary classic rock drummer
I don't think Floyd really wanted their drumming to stick out though, if you listen to them you'll know that for the most part, they were going for more of an ambient drum sound.
Yeah that is true, they were not going for a drum oriented sound at all, just spacey mysterious kinds of music.
Old korn songs ar intense to drum to, David Silveria was creative in the older stuff. Deftones' Abe Cunningham has great skills and ideas too.
"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds" - Albert Einstein
"They are ill discoverers that think that there is no land if they see nothing but a sea." —Francis Bacon
Beauford33 wrote:Anything Art Blakey. That guy is fucking amazing. Im really goping back thourhm my albums of his and he just makes everyone else just go to waste. Him and Tony Williams. But when I play these tunes...I got to go all out. If you've ever heard these guys, they just rip through. Art just beats the crap out of his set. I have to work harder when I play these tunes then for any tune named. These two guys are just amazing. IMO, better then any of the drummer previously mentioned. Just amazing.
I have heard these drummers and are respectable and classic for sure. What recordings do you suggest? Like partiular songs..
Get Art Blakey and the Jazz Messangers; Maonin. Great recordings. As for Rony, get Miles Davis ; Four more my funny valentine concert (something like that). Incredible.
these guys arent just resectable, that are legends (music world). Better then anyone out there.
Beauford33 wrote:Anything Art Blakey. That guy is fucking amazing. Im really goping back thourhm my albums of his and he just makes everyone else just go to waste. Him and Tony Williams. But when I play these tunes...I got to go all out. If you've ever heard these guys, they just rip through. Art just beats the crap out of his set. I have to work harder when I play these tunes then for any tune named. These two guys are just amazing. IMO, better then any of the drummer previously mentioned. Just amazing.
I have heard these drummers and are respectable and classic for sure. What recordings do you suggest? Like partiular songs..
Get Art Blakey and the Jazz Messangers; Maonin. Great recordings. As for Rony, get Miles Davis ; Four more my funny valentine concert (something like that). Incredible.
these guys arent just resectable, that are legends (music world). Better then anyone out there.
Cant wrong with Buddy Rich, Gene Krupa, Steve Smith, either. And I really hope Tony Royster Jr. gets into a really cool and exposed band because he is unreal too.
"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds" - Albert Einstein
"They are ill discoverers that think that there is no land if they see nothing but a sea." —Francis Bacon
Beauford33 wrote:Anything Art Blakey. That guy is fucking amazing. Im really goping back thourhm my albums of his and he just makes everyone else just go to waste. Him and Tony Williams. But when I play these tunes...I got to go all out. If you've ever heard these guys, they just rip through. Art just beats the crap out of his set. I have to work harder when I play these tunes then for any tune named. These two guys are just amazing. IMO, better then any of the drummer previously mentioned. Just amazing.
I have heard these drummers and are respectable and classic for sure. What recordings do you suggest? Like partiular songs..
Get Art Blakey and the Jazz Messangers; Maonin. Great recordings. As for Rony, get Miles Davis ; Four more my funny valentine concert (something like that). Incredible.
these guys arent just resectable, that are legends (music world). Better then anyone out there.
Cant wrong with Buddy Rich, Gene Krupa, Steve Smith, either. And I really hope Tony Royster Jr. gets into a really cool and exposed band because he is unreal too.
Gene Krupa was an entertainer, a great one...but not that great of a drummer. He made flashy movements thatn made what he did seem awsome, but what he did was not tech difficult. Buddy, of course. Steve Smith is also a great drummer. However, these two guys (along with Elvin Jones, Roy Haynes, Philly Joe Jones, and others) were innovators. Buddy and Gene were popular big band players, but bebop is a much different setting. When you narrow a band to a quartet, there is more space to fill. These guys revolutionized jazz drumming. All I can really say is to go and listen to them. Then try to play with them. Its tough. playing jazz is nothng like rock. I remember when I first started playing jazz a few years ago. Kinda a slap in the face when you really start to swing.
Beauford33 wrote:Anything Art Blakey. That guy is fucking amazing. Im really goping back thourhm my albums of his and he just makes everyone else just go to waste. Him and Tony Williams. But when I play these tunes...I got to go all out. If you've ever heard these guys, they just rip through. Art just beats the crap out of his set. I have to work harder when I play these tunes then for any tune named. These two guys are just amazing. IMO, better then any of the drummer previously mentioned. Just amazing.
I have heard these drummers and are respectable and classic for sure. What recordings do you suggest? Like partiular songs..
Get Art Blakey and the Jazz Messangers; Maonin. Great recordings. As for Rony, get Miles Davis ; Four more my funny valentine concert (something like that). Incredible.
these guys arent just resectable, that are legends (music world). Better then anyone out there.
Cant wrong with Buddy Rich, Gene Krupa, Steve Smith, either. And I really hope Tony Royster Jr. gets into a really cool and exposed band because he is unreal too.
Gene Krupa was an entertainer, a great one...but not that great of a drummer. He made flashy movements thatn made what he did seem awsome, but what he did was not tech difficult. Buddy, of course. Steve Smith is also a great drummer. However, these two guys (along with Elvin Jones, Roy Haynes, Philly Joe Jones, and others) were innovators. Buddy and Gene were popular big band players, but bebop is a much different setting. When you narrow a band to a quartet, there is more space to fill. These guys revolutionized jazz drumming. All I can really say is to go and listen to them. Then try to play with them. Its tough. playing jazz is nothng like rock. I remember when I first started playing jazz a few years ago. Kinda a slap in the face when you really start to swing.
Yeah your right bout them being great Innovators, I guess thats why Carter is my favorite, not to say he is an innovator excately. He uses a lot of influence from drummers like Copeland, Dennis Chambers, Buddy Rich even, but for popular music today he is a stand out drummer with great mix of percussion and drum beats.
Yeah I really like jazz music and wanna try to expand my skills to that area
"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds" - Albert Einstein
"They are ill discoverers that think that there is no land if they see nothing but a sea." —Francis Bacon
Beauford33 wrote:Anything Art Blakey. That guy is fucking amazing. Im really goping back thourhm my albums of his and he just makes everyone else just go to waste. Him and Tony Williams. But when I play these tunes...I got to go all out. If you've ever heard these guys, they just rip through. Art just beats the crap out of his set. I have to work harder when I play these tunes then for any tune named. These two guys are just amazing. IMO, better then any of the drummer previously mentioned. Just amazing.
I have heard these drummers and are respectable and classic for sure. What recordings do you suggest? Like partiular songs..
Get Art Blakey and the Jazz Messangers; Maonin. Great recordings. As for Rony, get Miles Davis ; Four more my funny valentine concert (something like that). Incredible.
these guys arent just resectable, that are legends (music world). Better then anyone out there.
Cant wrong with Buddy Rich, Gene Krupa, Steve Smith, either. And I really hope Tony Royster Jr. gets into a really cool and exposed band because he is unreal too.
Gene Krupa was an entertainer, a great one...but not that great of a drummer. He made flashy movements thatn made what he did seem awsome, but what he did was not tech difficult. Buddy, of course. Steve Smith is also a great drummer. However, these two guys (along with Elvin Jones, Roy Haynes, Philly Joe Jones, and others) were innovators. Buddy and Gene were popular big band players, but bebop is a much different setting. When you narrow a band to a quartet, there is more space to fill. These guys revolutionized jazz drumming. All I can really say is to go and listen to them. Then try to play with them. Its tough. playing jazz is nothng like rock. I remember when I first started playing jazz a few years ago. Kinda a slap in the face when you really start to swing.
Yeah your right bout them being great Innovators, I guess thats why Carter is my favorite, not to say he is an innovator excately. He uses a lot of influence from drummers like Copeland, Dennis Chambers, Buddy Rich even, but for popular music today he is a stand out drummer with great mix of percussion and drum beats.
Yeah I really like jazz music and wanna try to expand my skills to that area
man, you're are forgetting two major influences. Gadd and Cohbam. Gad espeacially, when it comes to laying down a groove and linear playing..that is all Gad. The open hand playing came from Cohbam as he was the first major drummers (and last innovator, along with gadd, imo. But not for this reason) to use open. Chambers did it later (but dropped it), but he got it from Cohbam. The speed around the drums definitly stems from Cohbam.
i also forgot to mention drummers who have played with zappa. jimmy carl black, aynsley dunbar, chad wackerman (best. drummer name. ever.) but especially terry bozzio.
