Learning Chords

gumbomadness · Unread post by **gumbomadness** » Sun Mar 27, 2005 3:44 pm

this will get you familiarwith common chhord shapes--

http://www.dmbtabs.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=18799

Very useful!

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and if you want to learn chord CONSTRUCTION--(working with scale degrees and how to know which notesfit in each chord) .. thats more complicated-- that me and FJ and shane and DMBFAN-- and.. hm.. pat.. and others can help you with.

fatjack · Unread post by **fatjack** » Sun Mar 27, 2005 7:40 pm

mrjones wrote:for major chords, the the key of the chord (like G chord or whatever) is the bass note for the chord. because a 3rd fret on the E string is a G, a chord starting with that is a G chord. notice how an open G and a barre G start on the same fret. this goes to most chords.

wha??

do you mean to say that it is the root or bass of the chord. and even if G is in the bass of a chord, it doesn't automatically make it a G chord...

gumbomadness · Unread post by **gumbomadness** » Sun Mar 27, 2005 8:58 pm

...::sigh::
in jazz, the bass note is sometimes removed completley and its played by the bass player..
that doesnt mean that its not the same chord its supposed to be.
Many times notes are dublicated..
for instance, in a barre G you have

You have 3 G's, 2 E's, and 1 B.

If the root was gone it would still be the same chord, and still even if it was played in a totally different spot on the neck like this: xxx787 it would still be a G Major.-- oh bother ,something tells me a read too far into your badly-constructed run-on statement.

gumbomadness · Unread post by **gumbomadness** » Sun Mar 27, 2005 9:00 pm

double

gumbomadness · Unread post by **gumbomadness** » Sun Mar 27, 2005 9:01 pm

fatjack wrote:
mrjones wrote:for major chords, the the key of the chord (like G chord or whatever) is the bass note for the chord. because a 3rd fret on the E string is a G, a chord starting with that is a G chord. notice how an open G and a barre G start on the same fret. this goes to most chords.
wha??

do you mean to say that it is the root or bass of the chord. and even if G is in the bass of a chord, it doesn't automatically make it a G chord...

exactly, if you moved a few fingers round the bass may still be G, but it could be a Gm7b6 or a Gmaj7, or Gminor etcetc..etc... or itcould have added 9ths and 13ths and 11ths ...bass does notdetermine chord!

mrjones · Unread post by **mrjones** » Sun Mar 27, 2005 9:04 pm

gumbomadness wrote:
fatjack wrote:
mrjones wrote:for major chords, the the key of the chord (like G chord or whatever) is the bass note for the chord. because a 3rd fret on the E string is a G, a chord starting with that is a G chord. notice how an open G and a barre G start on the same fret. this goes to most chords.
wha??

do you mean to say that it is the root or bass of the chord. and even if G is in the bass of a chord, it doesn't automatically make it a G chord...
exactly, if you moved a few fingers round the bass may still be G, but it could be a Gm7b6 or a Gmaj7, or Gminor etcetc..etc... or itcould have added 9ths and 13ths and 11ths ...bass does notdetermine chord!

i was refering to major chords only when i said "for major chords". i didnt want to confuse the guy, cuz he seemed to be already confused. he was talking about E shape barre chords. as far as i know, E shape barre chords are all major ones.

Elliottman · Unread post by **Elliottman** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 4:28 am

Ok guys thank you all for your help, it continues the trend of this place being super helpful!
Now i took allok at gumbomadness funky chart, and theres a couple of things im unsure with?
For example i tokk the 6th string (G) Maj7 diagram and compared it to this site that i have been using http://www.looknohands.com/chordhouse/g ... ex_db.html

now unless im being stupid, the two Gmaj7 diagram are different arent they? Which one is correct? Sorry for the hassle!

mlb1399 · Unread post by **mlb1399** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 9:57 am

Dale_Milligan wrote:Ok guys thank you all for your help, it continues the trend of this place being super helpful!
Now i took allok at gumbomadness funky chart, and theres a couple of things im unsure with?
For example i tokk the 6th string (G) Maj7 diagram and compared it to this site that i have been using http://www.looknohands.com/chordhouse/g ... ex_db.html

now unless im being stupid, the two Gmaj7 diagram are different arent they? Which one is correct? Sorry for the hassle!

I haven't looked at the charts you are talking about but it could be an inversion or just a different way of playing. There are numerous ways to play a guitar. Just think about all the different places you can combine a G, B, D, and F#.

Elliottman · Unread post by **Elliottman** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 10:24 am

mlb1399 wrote:
Dale_Milligan wrote:Ok guys thank you all for your help, it continues the trend of this place being super helpful!
Now i took allok at gumbomadness funky chart, and theres a couple of things im unsure with?
For example i tokk the 6th string (G) Maj7 diagram and compared it to this site that i have been using http://www.looknohands.com/chordhouse/g ... ex_db.html

now unless im being stupid, the two Gmaj7 diagram are different arent they? Which one is correct? Sorry for the hassle!
I haven't looked at the charts you are talking about but it could be an inversion or just a different way of playing. There are numerous ways to play a guitar. Just think about all the different places you can combine a G, B, D, and F#.

Ok, i get that. But it would be cool if someone could check out this site and compare my example i have given. Just to put my mind at rest! So the Gmaj7 on the website and the Gmaj7 on the diagram, they are different arent they? Thanks

mlb1399 · Unread post by **mlb1399** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 10:38 am

When I tried downloading his page it did not come up clearly. I don't know. From the point of this thread you are just learning to play new chords so just go with the one from your site, another good one is 320002.

Elliottman · Unread post by **Elliottman** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 12:59 pm

Yeah, would still be cool if someone could check the two out for me?

Dancing Ants · Unread post by **Dancing Ants** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 3:05 pm

if you're going to play rhythmn or lead in a jazz/highly improvisational band, it'd be a big benefit to learn as many chords as you can. if you're going to be strumming away (dmb, howie day, etc)...you wouldn't need to know a whole bunch of 7th and 9th, etc chords (although dave uses a couple 7th chords).

sk8r · Unread post by **sk8r** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 3:43 pm

hey guys....i wanna start to learn alot about chords and ryhthm related guitar... anyond know of a good site that just shows u alot of basic chords and can explain about what makes it a minor or the different degrees. just everything you would wanna know to be fluent with chords on a site...if there is such thing let me know

fatjack · Unread post by **fatjack** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 7:15 pm

gumbomadness wrote:...::sigh::
in jazz, the bass note is sometimes removed completley and its played by the bass player..
that doesnt mean that its not the same chord its supposed to be.
Many times notes are dublicated..
for instance, in a barre G you have

You have 3 G's, 2 E's, and 1 B.

If the root was gone it would still be the same chord, and still even if it was played in a totally different spot on the neck like this: xxx787 it would still be a G Major.-- oh bother ,something tells me a read too far into your badly-constructed run-on statement.

i hope you meant to write D instead of E there...

gumbomadness · Unread post by **gumbomadness** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 9:07 pm

fatjack wrote:
gumbomadness wrote:...::sigh::
in jazz, the bass note is sometimes removed completley and its played by the bass player..
that doesnt mean that its not the same chord its supposed to be.
Many times notes are dublicated..
for instance, in a barre G you have

You have 3 G's, 2 E's, and 1 B.

If the root was gone it would still be the same chord, and still even if it was played in a totally different spot on the neck like this: xxx787 it would still be a G Major.-- oh bother ,something tells me a read too far into your badly-constructed run-on statement.
i hope you meant to write D instead of E there...

lol yes i did. woops

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