Anybody like old Bartender more?

billywestom · Post by **billywestom** » Mon Aug 04, 2003 11:47 pm

The old D@T style slower version, like the old intro to DDTW...I sure do...

EDIT: Maybe this should be in the General DMB Discussion...feel free to move it...

JaDaRu · Post by **JaDaRu** » Mon Aug 04, 2003 11:57 pm

Hell yes....I first heard Bartender at the concert I went to April of 2002. This may sound stupid, but it just sounded so much more "spiritual"...or at the very least pure

Jason

DmbFanJason · Post by **DmbFanJason** » Mon Aug 04, 2003 11:58 pm

the old bartender is so much better..I agree...I think it should have been left as just an intro to Dont Drink the Water...

billywestom · Post by **billywestom** » Tue Aug 05, 2003 12:03 am

DmbFanJason wrote:the old bartender is so much better..I agree...I think it should have been left as just an intro to Dont Drink the Water...

I think it could have worked well as a song itself, but as long as Dave kept the old picking guitar part, not that slapping like it is now, and the much more melodic vocals, instead of the screaming that gets annoying. In a nutshell, the way it is on Storytellers...

DmbFanJason · Post by **DmbFanJason** » Tue Aug 05, 2003 12:27 am

billywestom wrote:
DmbFanJason wrote:the old bartender is so much better..I agree...I think it should have been left as just an intro to Dont Drink the Water...
I think it could have worked well as a song itself, but as long as Dave kept the old picking guitar part, not that slapping like it is now, and the much more melodic vocals, instead of the screaming that gets annoying. In a nutshell, the way it is on Storytellers...

maybe, but I'd always feel cheated if once bartender was over with no DDTW following.

MattyTrane · Post by **MattyTrane** » Tue Aug 05, 2003 8:50 am

I thought the screaming was cool at first, but now it seems kind of forced and repetitive, but still very action packed, the way it is now is far less boring so i like it better. just my .02$

firedancer86 · Post by **firedancer86** » Tue Aug 05, 2003 10:16 am

the old way was cool for D&T shows, but the version on BS is pretty darn boomin and energetic!

goalten106 · Post by **goalten106** » Tue Aug 05, 2003 3:48 pm

the new bartender on busted stuff is pretty sweet i think... especially from about 7:00 on, where he doodles around with the D and the 0-3-4-5-5-x (G variation?) chord during leroi's penny whistle solo. i have the "official" album tab book, and its interesting to see how he improvises.

another 2 cents thrown in...

peace

billywestom · Post by **billywestom** » Tue Aug 05, 2003 3:49 pm

goalten106 wrote: i have the "official" album tab book, and its interesting to see how he improvises.

being a tab book, I would be shocked to find out if it actually shows what Dave plays.

fatjack · Post by **fatjack** » Tue Aug 05, 2003 4:09 pm

billywestom wrote:
goalten106 wrote: i have the "official" album tab book, and its interesting to see how he improvises.
being a tab book, I would be shocked to find out if it actually shows what Dave plays.

tab books may not show what dave plays exactly, but it has the right notes (just in different positions) and you can't beat the usefulness of standard music notation. also, i have all but the busted stuff book, and some songs on the others actually have what dave plays (for instance trippin billies)

billywestom · Post by **billywestom** » Tue Aug 05, 2003 4:10 pm

fatjack wrote:
billywestom wrote:
goalten106 wrote: i have the "official" album tab book, and its interesting to see how he improvises.
being a tab book, I would be shocked to find out if it actually shows what Dave plays.
tab books may not show what dave plays exactly, but it has the right notes (just in different positions) and you can't beat the usefulness of standard music notation. also, i have all but the busted stuff book, and some songs on the others actually have what dave plays (for instance trippin billies)

Yeah Billies is pretty close, and a lot of songs in the book are good. LIOG, Let you Down and Cry Freedom I think are all almost right on.

rin · Post by **rin** » Tue Aug 05, 2003 4:29 pm

back to old bartender.... i really liked it when it was reconcile our differences. the lyrics really blow me away

if there were no devil, and there were no judas
where would God and his little boy be?
nowhere i swear

shit, man.

Granny33 · Post by **Granny33** » Tue Aug 05, 2003 4:43 pm

Yeah, the old d&t is better but i like the new version too. Also would you reccomend buying the tab books or just using this site?

billywestom · Post by **billywestom** » Tue Aug 05, 2003 4:45 pm

Granny33 wrote:Yeah, the old d&t is better but i like the new version too. Also would you reccomend buying the tab books or just using this site?

I haven't found anything in the tab books that help with Dave's style more than this site. The only thing they could be good for are Tim's fills and solos. If you are just looking to learn how Dave plays his songs, stick with the site.

jeffro · Post by **jeffro** » Tue Aug 05, 2003 4:59 pm

I definitely like the older D+T bartender better. I got tired of the full band version and sort of rediscovered it when i downloaded an old D+T show from antsmarching. Oh and the newer D+T bartender is ok but I think they drag it out too long, I would love to hear it as an intro to DDTW again, its just awesome