Cry Freedom

rochsuperstar · Post by **rochsuperstar** » Thu Jan 20, 2005 11:34 am

What's up all? Kinda new at this. had a quick question. Does anyone know what cry freedom is about.. any help appreciated..

c_tietze · Post by **c_tietze** » Thu Jan 20, 2005 11:43 am

Chris Hani in part, apartheid in part too.

Very similar to Peter Gabriel's song Biko in the sense that both deal with African men who were killed for senseless reasons.

carter29 · Post by **carter29** » Thu Jan 20, 2005 12:40 pm

Theres a movie called "Cry Freedom". I haven't seen it but i think the stories are closely related

GSR · Post by **GSR** » Thu Jan 20, 2005 12:53 pm

"Cry Freedom" is a song about everyone living in peace and happiness, motivated by Dave's living in South Africa and dealing with apartheid. Dave has recently admitted that the inspiration for the song came from deceased anti-apartheid leader, Steven Biko and the movie of the same name.

http://www.geocities.com/antz12m/cry.html

Ranting Thespian · Post by **Ranting Thespian** » Fri Jan 21, 2005 1:46 am

GSRLessard14 wrote: . . . Dave has recently admitted that the inspiration for the song came from deceased anti-apartheid leader . . .

Actualy, this isn't recent. I bet they just havn't ever updated that site. He said that many years ago. I used to have it with some Dave Speak stuff I had, but then dumped the audio to make way for space on my old computer. But yeah, I forget the guy's name. In the song, he talks directly about him in the 2nd verse.

GSR · Post by **GSR** » Fri Jan 21, 2005 11:15 am

Ranting Thespian wrote:
GSRLessard14 wrote: . . . Dave has recently admitted that the inspiration for the song came from deceased anti-apartheid leader . . .
Actualy, this isn't recent. I bet they just havn't ever updated that site. He said that many years ago. I used to have it with some Dave Speak stuff I had, but then dumped the audio to make way for space on my old computer. But yeah, I forget the guy's name. In the song, he talks directly about him in the 2nd verse.

that site hasn't been updated since... march 2, 2004.. too bad, it was great.

a1075dd63aa12 · Post by **a1075dd63aa12** » Fri Jan 21, 2005 5:15 pm

c_tietze wrote:Chris Hani in part, apartheid in part too.

Very similar to Peter Gabriel's song Biko in the sense that both deal with African men who were killed for senseless reasons.

its amazing what humans will do to other humans, in the name of an ideal, philosophy or belief

Davy28 · Post by **Davy28** » Fri Jan 21, 2005 5:28 pm

cry freedom is not about chris hani at all. thats #36.

Ranting Thespian · Post by **Ranting Thespian** » Fri Jan 21, 2005 10:56 pm

wkpggrvn2001 wrote: . . . its amazing what humans will do to other humans, in the name of an ideal, philosophy or belief

Not just to humans, but to all the creatures, and the whole world.

czech · Post by **czech** » Fri Jan 21, 2005 11:09 pm

Davy28 wrote:cry freedom is not about chris hani at all. thats #36.

so is it-

"Hani, Honey" or "hani, hani" or what????!!!

Davy28 · Post by **Davy28** » Sat Jan 22, 2005 8:08 pm

It started out as hani hani and then switched to honey honey. I haven't the foggiest idea when the transition occured, although I think it happened sometime when the lyrics were changed from unintelligible babble and scatting (Red Rocks) to that of a school dance (Listener Supported).

mdel21 · Post by **mdel21** » Sat Jan 22, 2005 8:16 pm

dave said that the song sounded to "happy" musically. That's why he switched it from Hani, Hani to Honey, Honey.

Davy28 · Post by **Davy28** » Sat Jan 22, 2005 9:19 pm

When was that? i'm just curious

a1075dd63aa12 · Post by **a1075dd63aa12** » Sat Jan 22, 2005 9:30 pm

Ranting Thespian wrote:
wkpggrvn2001 wrote: . . . its amazing what humans will do to other humans, in the name of an ideal, philosophy or belief
Not just to humans, but to all the creatures, and the whole world.

couldnt agree more, a lot of life is really nice, but there are some parts of it that are horrible, and at times it seems like the bad is beating the good

Katelyn · Post by **Katelyn** » Sun Jan 23, 2005 10:05 am

Ranting Thespian wrote:
wkpggrvn2001 wrote: . . . its amazing what humans will do to other humans, in the name of an ideal, philosophy or belief
Not just to humans, but to all the creatures, and the whole world.

Agreed, Ranting. But I'm ok, because I recycle. And I've only murdered a few people.