what key is "when the world ends" in?

Swe dmbfan · Post by **Swe dmbfan** » Sun Jan 09, 2005 10:50 pm

deceptivehero wrote:praisedave your av changes make my head come near explosion.

i agree, and anyone is better and that pic you have now..

MWR · Post by **MWR** » Sun Jan 09, 2005 10:50 pm

The verse and bridge are definately in Bm and D respectively.

The chorus is weird though. This is one example of where it makes more sense to think of things being flat not sharp. So C# is Db and G# is Ab etc. The progression is F, Dbmaj7(no third), Ab6(no third), Bbsus2. Everything is diatonic to Dbmajor/Bbminor except the F. The changes are so quick you probably don't have to worry, just be aware that the F is major not minor.
I think a Bb blues scale would work well.

MWR · Post by **MWR** » Sun Jan 09, 2005 10:54 pm

Swe dmbfan wrote:
deceptivehero wrote:praisedave your av changes make my head come near explosion.
i agree, and anyone is better and that pic you have now..

Appfro · Post by **Appfro** » Mon Jan 10, 2005 12:26 am

Davy28 wrote:
Appsoldier wrote:Verse: D
Chorus: G#
Bridge: D

I think...
Close, to be more accurate the verse is in Bm and the chorus is in Fm. But you got your relative majors correct.

i knwo they are the same, but i still haven't figured out how to tell the diffence between a major key and it's relative minor. any tips?

mangold · Post by **mangold** » Mon Jan 10, 2005 2:36 pm

MWR wrote:The verse and bridge are definately in Bm and D respectively.

The chorus is weird though. This is one example of where it makes more sense to think of things being flat not sharp. So C# is Db and G# is Ab etc. The progression is F, Dbmaj7(no third), Ab6(no third), Bbsus2. Everything is diatonic to Dbmajor/Bbminor except the F. The changes are so quick you probably don't have to worry, just be aware that the F is major not minor.
I think a Bb blues scale would work well.

well atleast its confusing... ill use that blues scale i believe, thanks mike

*in nasaly annoying voice* ill change my av... sheesh

dmbguitar718 · Post by **dmbguitar718** » Mon Jan 10, 2005 2:49 pm

I thought keys went by the CAGED system? If so, then wouldn't the key be D major, and not B minor? I know they're they same thing, but I mean you'd say D, right?

Davy28 · Post by **Davy28** » Mon Jan 10, 2005 3:14 pm

I just mess around with that arpeggio that is played in the background.

Appfro · Post by **Appfro** » Mon Jan 10, 2005 3:35 pm

Appsoldier wrote:
Davy28 wrote:
Appsoldier wrote:Verse: D
Chorus: G#
Bridge: D

I think...
Close, to be more accurate the verse is in Bm and the chorus is in Fm. But you got your relative majors correct.
i knwo they are the same, but i still haven't figured out how to tell the diffence between a major key and it's relative minor. any tips?

J Chord · Post by **J Chord** » Tue Jan 18, 2005 1:48 pm

dmbguitar718 wrote:I thought keys went by the CAGED system? If so, then wouldn't the key be D major, and not B minor? I know they're they same thing, but I mean you'd say D, right?

yeah, from the CAGED system that would make sense with Bm being next followed by Amaj (not for the song but for example)

MWR · Post by **MWR** » Tue Jan 18, 2005 5:13 pm

J Chord wrote:
dmbguitar718 wrote:I thought keys went by the CAGED system? If so, then wouldn't the key be D major, and not B minor? I know they're they same thing, but I mean you'd say D, right?
yeah, from the CAGED system that would make sense with Bm being next followed by Amaj (not for the song but for example)

Isn't the CAGED system just the scale patterns derived from each chord shape? How does it help detirmine keys?