Ring finger on The Stone and other songs

So you're amazed as to how Dave's rhythm guitar slaps and strums so "perfectly"...but you can't. Ask all things about Dave and his guitars here.

Moderators: onid41, jkanter

Post Reply
User avatar
ElGuitarrista
Posts: 130
Joined: Tue Apr 29, 2003 8:26 pm
Location: Pittsburgh, PA

Ring finger on The Stone and other songs

Post by ElGuitarrista »

Hey everyone,

I noticed that Dave keeps his ring finger fully extended when playing the main riff in The Stone, I'm assuming to mute the top sting.

From watching videos it seems that he often uses his middle or ring fingers to mute, then plays notes with his index and pinky.

Is it just me, or is this type of playing really difficult for others on the board? I've been playing for a while, but when I try to keep my ring finger extended, it's so difficult for me to fret the other notes in The Stone. The tendency is for my ring finger to want to 'curl up'. It's like my finger muscles aren't trained for that position.

Any tips?

Thanks.
saleen
DMBTabs.com Council
Posts: 544
Joined: Sat Apr 19, 2003 9:08 pm
Location: San Diego State University

Post by saleen »

well it isn't just you, I think it is impossible
-adam cate
"i found it hard - it's hard to find - oh well, whatever nevermind" - Kurdt Cobain
MWR
DMBTabs.com Authority
Posts: 2085
Joined: Sat Apr 19, 2003 3:28 pm
Location: Anytown, USA

Post by MWR »

Dave also extends his middle finger on power chords which for muting purposes you can use you index. Basically he has his idosyncrasies and they don't always serve a purpose. Then again on songs like Stay its pretty crucial to have the middle and ring extended while fretting with index and pinky(because theres so much percussion). On the single note songs(The Stone, Help Myself) he is just really accurate. Learn how to palm mute it helped my playing quite a bit.
User avatar
jsgksu
DMBTabs.com Authority
Posts: 43671
Joined: Wed Oct 02, 2002 11:18 am
Random movie quote to make you seem hip and "with it": The food court is downstairs. The cookie stand is upstairs. It's not like we're talking quantum physics here.
Location: Charleston, SC

Post by jsgksu »

I also dont get how the hell he, and others, are able to play power chords with their index and pinky. I cant barre a fret with my pinky as all, gotta use my index and ring finger, I guess I just gotta get more strength in the little guy.
-Jayme
DustyDave
DMBTabs.com Authority
Posts: 5202
Joined: Sun Feb 23, 2003 4:14 pm
Location: Denmark
Contact:

Post by DustyDave »

jsgksu wrote:I also dont get how the hell he, and others, are able to play power chords with their index and pinky. I cant barre a fret with my pinky as all, gotta use my index and ring finger, I guess I just gotta get more strength in the little guy.
You should definetly practice the use of the pinky , it will make alot of things easier for you , not to mention that if you don't use it all that much , you'll really miss out on some nice chord shapes :lol:
User avatar
jsgksu
DMBTabs.com Authority
Posts: 43671
Joined: Wed Oct 02, 2002 11:18 am
Random movie quote to make you seem hip and "with it": The food court is downstairs. The cookie stand is upstairs. It's not like we're talking quantum physics here.
Location: Charleston, SC

Post by jsgksu »

I have alright use of my pinky, its not up to par with the rest of them but it deffinatley doesnt go unused. I just cant barre with it at all, it curls up on me, but aside from that he works ok, just a little slower then the other guys.
-Jayme
DustyDave
DMBTabs.com Authority
Posts: 5202
Joined: Sun Feb 23, 2003 4:14 pm
Location: Denmark
Contact:

Post by DustyDave »

" Im coming slow but speeding .... " lol he will come just keep practicing him :lol:
Fanofdave
Posts: 2
Joined: Sat May 24, 2003 11:13 pm

The stone

Post by Fanofdave »

Just practice at it. The more you try to play it the easier it'll get for your fingers to move like that.
schollz51
Posts: 36
Joined: Sun Oct 06, 2002 10:37 am

Post by schollz51 »

alright i need help with the stone.my problem is i cant get this part:

Intro
E:-------------------------
B:-------------------------
G:-----2-------------------
D:---------3---5-5--2-3-2--
A:-5-----------------------
E:-------------------------
4 1 2 4 4 1 2 1
i cannot get the 2-3-2 to sound like dave does it.can anybody help(understand) me?
thanx


jon
User avatar
jsgksu
DMBTabs.com Authority
Posts: 43671
Joined: Wed Oct 02, 2002 11:18 am
Random movie quote to make you seem hip and "with it": The food court is downstairs. The cookie stand is upstairs. It's not like we're talking quantum physics here.
Location: Charleston, SC

Post by jsgksu »

schollz51 wrote:i cannot get the 2-3-2 to sound like dave does it.can anybody help(understand) me?
thanx
Thats pretty much everyones problem and the main controversy with this song, Im real bored, want a sound clip?
-Jayme
schollz51
Posts: 36
Joined: Sun Oct 06, 2002 10:37 am

Post by schollz51 »

jsgksu wrote:
schollz51 wrote:i cannot get the 2-3-2 to sound like dave does it.can anybody help(understand) me?
thanx
Thats pretty much everyones problem and the main controversy with this song, Im real bored, want a sound clip?
absoultly!! thank u


jon

p.s. im bored too
madtownjj
Posts: 15
Joined: Mon May 26, 2003 8:27 pm

Post by madtownjj »

for the stone this, i can't get it to sound right so I play that last part of the intro riff like this



E--------------------------
B-------------------------
G-------------------------
D-5-5--3-2-------------------
A------------5--------------
E---------------------------


Also, I have seen him play the chord in the middle of the verse a little differently than jkanter has it on this site


E-------------------------------
B------3-------------------------
G------3-------------------------
D-------------------------------
A------1-------------------------
E------3-------------------------
User avatar
grock
DMBTabs.com Council
Posts: 802
Joined: Mon Jan 20, 2003 1:03 pm
Location: Chicago

Post by grock »

if i'm lazy i'll play that Gm chord like this

Code: Select all

---  Fingers
---  
-3-  3
-0-  
-x-  
-3-  2
and on occasion i'll stretch my index back there to play the chord "right"
schollz51 wrote:alright i need help with the stone.my problem is i cant get this part:

Intro
E:-------------------------
B:-------------------------
G:-----2-------------------
D:---------3---5-5--2-3-2--
A:-5-----------------------
E:-------------------------
4 1 2 4 4 1 2 1
i cannot get the 2-3-2 to sound like dave does it.can anybody help(understand) me?
thanx
i had this problem but the trick is to play it with 6 beats. remember time signature. so many times it is attempted to play this song in 4/4 and it kinda sounds right but that is the main problem. the 5-5-2-3 are all eighth notes while the rest are quarter notes.

so the beat is "buh bah buh bubump bubump bah"
Trippin Hillbilly
DMBTabs.com Authority
Posts: 3577
Joined: Fri Feb 21, 2003 9:58 am
Location: London, UK
Contact:

Post by Trippin Hillbilly »

grock wrote: so the beat is "buh bah buh bubump bubump bah"

hahaha, ...that's funny :lol:
User avatar
TOMAMI
Posts: 123
Joined: Fri Apr 04, 2003 3:42 pm
Location: SEATTLE, WA

Post by TOMAMI »

The Ring Finger- Dave uses it to mute the two E AND A strings so he can half strum the notes the pointer finger mutes the G when not played and the B, e strings below. Holding your ring finger like this takes practice and will become easier over time.
Post Reply