Does dave know theory?

JonTheSpaceMan · Post by **JonTheSpaceMan** » Tue Sep 21, 2004 2:30 pm

Does he know musical theory or does he just wing it like most of us? ( we me at least)

Brock · Post by **Brock** » Tue Sep 21, 2004 2:37 pm

Pretty sure he doesn't.

MWR · Post by **MWR** » Tue Sep 21, 2004 2:40 pm

He has to know a bit by this point in his career. I imagine he uses his ears most of the time though. I think most of his knowledge is geared toward rhythm as opposed to coplex chords and progressions.

mdel21 · Post by **mdel21** » Tue Sep 21, 2004 2:48 pm

I think Dave knows more than he leads us to believe. Maybe at first he just kinda winged it, but I don't think you could make up something like Rhyme and Reason or Billies without knowing a little theory and scales.

6_strings_for_life · Post by **6_strings_for_life** » Tue Sep 21, 2004 2:52 pm

I think he knows quite a bit. Even as the scale in Minerates as a example of his theory knowledge. Even in his earlier songs like "what would you say" its pretty evident..

JonTheSpaceMan · Post by **JonTheSpaceMan** » Tue Sep 21, 2004 2:54 pm

he hasnt talked about it though...maybe in a guitar world interview or something.

i dont think he does personaly.

drugs can do wonderous things.

6_strings_for_life · Post by **6_strings_for_life** » Tue Sep 21, 2004 2:56 pm

very valid point there space man

JonTheSpaceMan · Post by **JonTheSpaceMan** » Tue Sep 21, 2004 3:20 pm

are we allowed to speak of drug usage on this forum

ericwormann · Post by **ericwormann** » Tue Sep 21, 2004 3:40 pm

By this point, he's been playing the guitar for 20+ years, with a background in piano as well. He knows a lot more than you think he does.

filmdude100cms · Post by **filmdude100cms** » Tue Sep 21, 2004 3:44 pm

he knows allot, remember, one reason dave says hes not a good guitarist a that he doesnt know theory, is 1.) hes very humble 2.) his best friend, and who he used to jam with friend was tim reynolds, who knows theory in and out...

i have quotes if dave saying "when i first heard tim it was like the first time i had said 'fuck i suck next to this guy" its like me, i know some theory, im not a bad guitarist but next to daniel, i dont know much theory at all, and im not great.

Kukini · Post by **Kukini** » Tue Sep 21, 2004 4:16 pm

Dave, I think could care less about theory, he's also a lyricist. He makes music that goes well with lyrics, thats all. I'm sure he knows some theory if you look at some of the riffs he writes, but I think he just likes to play and sing, not dwelve deep into the mystery that is a guitar.

Beauford33 · Post by **Beauford33** » Tue Sep 21, 2004 4:24 pm

Kukini wrote:Dave, I think could care less about theory, he's also a lyricist. He makes music that goes well with lyrics, thats all. I'm sure he knows some theory if you look at some of the riffs he writes, but I think he just likes to play and sing, not dwelve deep into the mystery that is a guitar.

other way around. He says that he does the lyrics afterward. Most songs are product of a jam the band made up.

DMBartender · Post by **DMBartender** » Tue Sep 21, 2004 4:59 pm

Beauford33 wrote:
Kukini wrote:Dave, I think could care less about theory, he's also a lyricist. He makes music that goes well with lyrics, thats all. I'm sure he knows some theory if you look at some of the riffs he writes, but I think he just likes to play and sing, not dwelve deep into the mystery that is a guitar.
other way around. He says that he does the lyrics afterward. Most songs are product of a jam the band made up.

correct. I really think Dave knows quite a bit of theory. He's definetly no Timmy, but I just don't think you can put together those progressions and scales so successfully without at least a pretty good foundation of theory.

MWR · Post by **MWR** » Tue Sep 21, 2004 5:14 pm

DMBartender wrote:
Beauford33 wrote:
Kukini wrote:Dave, I think could care less about theory, he's also a lyricist. He makes music that goes well with lyrics, thats all. I'm sure he knows some theory if you look at some of the riffs he writes, but I think he just likes to play and sing, not dwelve deep into the mystery that is a guitar.
other way around. He says that he does the lyrics afterward. Most songs are product of a jam the band made up.
correct. I really think Dave knows quite a bit of theory. He's definetly no Timmy, but I just don't think you can put together those progressions and scales so successfully without at least a pretty good foundation of theory.

Dave's progressions and scales are simple. A vast majority of it is straight major/minor and he rarely adds any sort of real tension. Doesn't mean he's any less of a musician but his music is simple.
I do think he downplays how much he knows though.

everydayDMBfan_18 · Post by **everydayDMBfan_18** » Tue Sep 21, 2004 6:05 pm

JonTheSpaceMan wrote:are we allowed to speak of drug usage on this forum

yes...I do heroin every night before I go to sleep