I was in my shower the other night and I was......

DmbFanJason · Post by **DmbFanJason** » Mon Sep 13, 2004 2:51 pm

BLA DEE!!! Anyway, no ferreal...I was just thinking about the lyrics to Dave songs...i.e. Rapunzel, DDTW, Say Goodbye, 41, etc...Holy shit, I've got even more respect for Dave(if that's even humanly possible). If you haven't already, just try speaking the lyrics to yourself and see if you get a different perspective. I was stating to a friend, who hadn't heard Dave, the lyrics to Rapunzel, and he was like "Holy shit those are good lyrics". And then I was saying to myself the lyrics to DDTW; god damn, that's some fuckin awesome shit there, he's like telling a story with each song....and on the other hand I did the same with other artists, and only thought "well, that was ok, but kinda lame"...DAVE = GOD. Anyone else done this?

Kukini · Post by **Kukini** » Mon Sep 13, 2004 3:20 pm

I've often pondered his lyrics, they are amazing!

coyoteguy · Post by **coyoteguy** » Mon Sep 13, 2004 9:25 pm

yes indeed

Pacs · Post by **Pacs** » Mon Sep 13, 2004 11:00 pm

Lol, the funny part is that so many of his songs have some significant meanings and Dave could pretty much only play his popular songs in VH1 Storytellers, which are only considered his "popular" songs b/c pretty much any joe schmo can understand. Be nice if he did another Storytellers but based on Dave's favorite songs of his. Now that'd be sweet!

Brock · Post by **Brock** » Mon Sep 13, 2004 11:01 pm

Pacs wrote:Lol, the funny part is that so many of his songs have some significant meanings and Dave could pretty much only play his popular songs in VH1 Storytellers, which are only considered his "popular" songs b/c pretty much any joe schmo can understand. Be nice if he did another Storytellers but based on Dave's favorite songs of his. Now that'd be sweet!

Dave played a lot of songs at Storytellers. VH1 only chose to air his popular songs

Pacs · Post by **Pacs** » Mon Sep 13, 2004 11:02 pm

Thats new to me... wow were you there? Is it available for D/L anywhere?

Brock · Post by **Brock** » Mon Sep 13, 2004 11:10 pm

Pacs wrote:Thats new to me... wow were you there? Is it available for D/L anywhere?

Nope, it's pretty common knowledge (you can check out the setlist here). There is an audio taping of this show, but it is of incredibly bad quality - I used to have it but didn't save it when I reformatted since it was so bad. You can grab that off antsmarching. There is no known video of it beyond what was aired.....

Thomas · Post by **Thomas** » Mon Sep 13, 2004 11:35 pm

TrippnBill686 wrote:
Pacs wrote:Thats new to me... wow were you there? Is it available for D/L anywhere?
Nope, it's pretty common knowledge (you can check out the setlist here). There is an audio taping of this show, but it is of incredibly bad quality - I used to have it but didn't save it when I reformatted since it was so bad. You can grab that off antsmarching. There is no known video of it beyond what was aired.....

you know... there has to be at least a couple of songs didn't get screwed up in the taping. someone is holding out on us...

freakin Vh1

Ranting Thespian · Post by **Ranting Thespian** » Tue Sep 14, 2004 12:20 am

I sing to myself songs while at work. I tend to sing songs that have real meaning and thought in the lyrics. One I always sing is the Dreaming Tree. That has some amazing lyrics. They really hit you.

Another good one is Pig, just so uplifting.

c_tietze · Post by **c_tietze** » Tue Sep 14, 2004 12:22 pm

I like the way Dave phrases his songs. I remember in my early DMB days how much I just loved how Dave's songs would swell and swell and crescendo with some big, blazing chorus that would just knock me out of my chair. Man, DMB is awesome.

onid41 · Post by **onid41** » Tue Sep 14, 2004 2:09 pm

i wish i could write songs like dave

Jer1400 · Post by **Jer1400** » Tue Sep 14, 2004 7:39 pm

He's not that good. Maybe the [objectional] best in today's main-stream music, but there are so many better poets and song writers out there. My friend who I consider to be a kind of mentor once told me, "Power in writing is a pretty compact idea: showing us how we are human in ways that are new and enlightening and yet still strike us as having always been there." Dave makes good use of this, but he still lacks a distinct creative originality here and there.

Leonard Cohen, Jeff Mangum, Dylan sure why not, Gordon Downie, and Paul Simon are all excellent lyrisicts.

The ideas he uses are things that resonate within you, I'm just saying he's not the best. In my opinion, he's not only gone downhill with these new songs so much as fallen off a cliff with them. There's some gems in Some Devil, though: "Oh", "So Damn Lucky," maybe even "Grey Blue Eyes". I respect him more often for the music than the lyrics, though.

GSR · Post by **GSR** » Tue Sep 14, 2004 9:51 pm

he puts pauses/breaks in his lyrics in the coolest places.

"I'm only this far.... and only tomorr....ow leads the way"

MWR · Post by **MWR** » Tue Sep 14, 2004 10:07 pm

Jer1400 wrote:He's not that good. Maybe the [objectional] best in today's main-stream music, but there are so many better poets and song writers out there. My friend who I consider to be a kind of mentor once told me, "Power in writing is a pretty compact idea: showing us how we are human in ways that are new and enlightening and yet still strike us as having always been there." Dave makes good use of this, but he still lacks a distinct creative originality here and there.

Leonard Cohen, Jeff Mangum, Dylan sure why not, Gordon Downie, and Paul Simon are all excellent lyrisicts.

The ideas he uses are things that resonate within you, I'm just saying he's not the best. In my opinion, he's not only gone downhill with these new songs so much as fallen off a cliff with them. There's some gems in Some Devil, though: "Oh", "So Damn Lucky," maybe even "Grey Blue Eyes". I respect him more often for the music than the lyrics, though.

Agreed.
He doesn't try to be in his head all the time though which I think is a good thing but it inevitably leads to the more cliche lyrics.
I wouldn't say I respect him more for his music because it's far too simple if you compare it to a great fingerstyle player.
But I still think hes the man even after I became a jaded, narcissistic, prick, guitarist.
Dave and Tim are the reason I started playing so late in life (19).

DmbFanJason · Post by **DmbFanJason** » Wed Sep 15, 2004 1:06 am

you all know that if you had to pick one band to listen to for the rest of your life, it would be dave....hence, hes the best whatever you want to call it!

FUCK YE!