scalped?

searly · Post by **searly** » Mon Jun 28, 2004 2:25 pm

hey peeps. I am planning on goin to the Dave show on wed. I am wondering if ANYONE have bought scalpped tickets for this years tour. I wana know aprox how much i will pay for lawns. I tried this awhile ago and all i got was "don't buy scalped tickets" as informative is that might be i have no choice..[feel free to suggest alternatives] so.....i leave it in ur hands...u may now enlighten me.....PEACE

Snyder · Post by **Snyder** » Mon Jun 28, 2004 2:42 pm

You shouldn't have to pay more than a little over face value. If you wait till near the show starting, they will start to get desprate and just sell it for what ever they can get. It's lawn, no one is going to be able to "make" too much money off them. Eveyone normally wants seats so lawn is considered settling for tickets.

hd28v · Post by **hd28v** » Mon Jun 28, 2004 9:42 pm

you can always always always talk a scapler down unless the ticket is in HUGE demand---for lawn you should have no problem

mdel21 · Post by **mdel21** » Mon Jun 28, 2004 10:10 pm

Start off walking around the lot asking kids. Maybe someone in their group didn't make it. Most true fans won't try to rip you off. Try to stay away from scalpers as long as possible

jsgksu · Post by **jsgksu** » Tue Jun 29, 2004 7:58 am

a lot of my friends got scalped tickets this last saturday and sunday, I dont think any of them payed over face, most payed less

searly · Post by **searly** » Tue Jun 29, 2004 11:33 am

i appreciate the feedback people but there is a sneaking suspision i have the in the States it is illegal to charge more then face value. Here in Canada however i belive it is compleatly illegal to scalpe but it in NEVER enforced. Therefore they carge whatever they want. I remember paying double the value of a ben harper J>J ticket last summer......your thoughts?

Brock · Post by **Brock** » Tue Jun 29, 2004 12:03 pm

searly wrote:i appreciate the feedback people but there is a sneaking suspision i have the in the States it is illegal to charge more then face value. Here in Canada however i belive it is compleatly illegal to scalpe but it in NEVER enforced. Therefore they carge whatever they want. I remember paying double the value of a ben harper J>J ticket last summer......your thoughts?

Here are the US laws:

It is completely legal to sell tickets at more than face value AS LONG AS the seller is not within 300 yards of the event venue. Therefore, it is illegal for scalpers at DMB shows to sell them at more than face value, but not illegal for scalpers to sell them on eBay for $300+.

jsgksu · Post by **jsgksu** » Tue Jun 29, 2004 12:08 pm

TrippnBill686 wrote:
searly wrote:i appreciate the feedback people but there is a sneaking suspision i have the in the States it is illegal to charge more then face value. Here in Canada however i belive it is compleatly illegal to scalpe but it in NEVER enforced. Therefore they carge whatever they want. I remember paying double the value of a ben harper J>J ticket last summer......your thoughts?
Here are the US laws:

It is completely legal to sell tickets at more than face value AS LONG AS the seller is not within 300 yards of the event venue. Therefore, it is illegal for scalpers at DMB shows to sell them at more than face value, but not illegal for scalpers to sell them on eBay for $300+.

wow, I didnt know that, thanks for the info, maybe Ill fuck with someone next time Im at a show and theyre offering tickets.

is it also illegal to sell bootleg t-shirts in the parking lot of shows. Like the tye dye ones that people make up themselves

Brock · Post by **Brock** » Tue Jun 29, 2004 12:22 pm

jsgksu wrote:is it also illegal to sell bootleg t-shirts in the parking lot of shows. Like the tye dye ones that people make up themselves

Depends on if they contain copyrighted or trademarked material. I imagine that "Dave Matthews Band" is a registered trademark, and the use of it without permission for profit could result in a lawsuit from the band against the perpetrators.

jsgksu · Post by **jsgksu** » Tue Jun 29, 2004 12:24 pm

TrippnBill686 wrote:
jsgksu wrote:is it also illegal to sell bootleg t-shirts in the parking lot of shows. Like the tye dye ones that people make up themselves
Depends on if they contain copyrighted or trademarked material. I imagine that "Dave Matthews Band" is a registered trademark, and the use of it without permission for profit could result in a lawsuit from the band against the perpetrators.

figured, my gf said that she'd seen people selling them before and that security had confiscated them from the sellers, just thought Id ask

ericwormann · Post by **ericwormann** » Tue Jun 29, 2004 1:25 pm

TrippnBill686 wrote:
searly wrote:i appreciate the feedback people but there is a sneaking suspision i have the in the States it is illegal to charge more then face value. Here in Canada however i belive it is compleatly illegal to scalpe but it in NEVER enforced. Therefore they carge whatever they want. I remember paying double the value of a ben harper J>J ticket last summer......your thoughts?
Here are the US laws:

It is completely legal to sell tickets at more than face value AS LONG AS the seller is not within 300 yards of the event venue. Therefore, it is illegal for scalpers at DMB shows to sell them at more than face value, but not illegal for scalpers to sell them on eBay for $300+.

Scalping laws vary from state to state. Here in New Jersey it is illegal to sell for more than 10% above face value. But it's different for every state.

Two years ago I had an extra ticket that I had to get rid of, but so did everyone else at the venue. I had to sell it for $10. That was the worst.

Brock · Post by **Brock** » Tue Jun 29, 2004 1:44 pm

Ah, okay thanks Eric. I didn't realize it varied.

ericwormann · Post by **ericwormann** » Tue Jun 29, 2004 2:07 pm

That's also why they have trouble getting people on Ebay in trouble for selling scalped tickets, because it depends on where they are selling from, where the venue is, etc.