Liog/Dave style stum pickign

phatnev · Post by **phatnev** » Wed Mar 17, 2004 7:54 pm

I know when Dave picks the strings hes still strumming all the strings or soemthing to that effect. Is it going to be that big of a deal if I pick like I normally do?

2stepingJ · Post by **2stepingJ** » Wed Mar 17, 2004 7:56 pm

no..... eventually it just starts coming to you that way (the strumming)... my take of it is that he's actually picking out the individual notes while keeping the strum pattern going... whatever's clever... it works for me

2StepGranny · Post by **2StepGranny** » Wed Mar 17, 2004 8:02 pm

I don't know that whole song, but the intro for it, I can strum like a mad man and hit just the chord that I want, it's one of few songs that I can actually do that with. Now I just wish I knew the entire song

GuitarGuy610 · Post by **GuitarGuy610** » Wed Mar 17, 2004 11:27 pm

Yeah, LIOG is fun for me because I don't haev to think about playing anymore. After practicing alot the whole song comes pretty natural (picking/strumming) I say do whatever works for yah!

Davy28 · Post by **Davy28** » Wed Mar 17, 2004 11:36 pm

Its also the way dave plays. Don't worry about copying it exactly. He is so rediculously good at muting strings that he can strum like a mad man and hit individual notes with his signiture percussive quality. If it sound like the recording, it works, whether it looks like dave or not. Take Stay, for example. I know how to strum the main verse part madly like dave does but I can never do it accurate enough. I always hit the low E string open and it sounds like crap, so I have to back off my ratio of strumming to picking.

Bottom line, practice and do what works and sounds good to you.

GuitarGuy610 · Post by **GuitarGuy610** » Fri Mar 19, 2004 12:16 pm

Davy28 wrote:Bottom line, practice and do what works and sounds good to you.

I agree!

2StepGranny · Post by **2StepGranny** » Fri Mar 19, 2004 8:43 pm

OMG, for Stay, I love playing that song just because I have it down where I can play just like him. Strumming like a mad man. Everyone does it different, but that is one of a couple songs that I get great satisfaction knowing that I can play it exactly like Dave can

I don't mean to brag or anything though, just my two cents

mlee · Post by **mlee** » Sat Mar 20, 2004 12:00 pm

2StepGranny wrote:I don't know that whole song, but the intro for it, I can strum like a mad man and hit just the chord that I want, it's one of few songs that I can actually do that with. Now I just wish I knew the entire song

Well if you can play the intro, (the intro is basically just the verse) you're not too far off from knowing the whole song...you should really think about learning it, you're about 3/4 of the way there already.

Davy28 · Post by **Davy28** » Sat Mar 20, 2004 2:13 pm

Is Stay in Bb of Eb? I was playing my electric along with central park and could not find the key so my improvs sounded like shit.

TOMAMI · Post by **TOMAMI** » Thu Mar 25, 2004 6:18 pm

Phatnev

A couple of reasons why You should practice the way Dave palyes LIOG.

1st. You are learning a style of playing that makes Dave so F___ ing good

2nd. You will pick up other dave tunes faster than most because he uses this style in alot of his songs.

3rd. At first this muting style is hard to do however when you get it you will find it very forgiving and relaxing.

watch video and Practice. (study his hands hard)

TOMAMI · Post by **TOMAMI** » Thu Mar 25, 2004 6:32 pm

Davy 28

When Playing Stay How are you muting the low E string? (with what finger?) The way I do it is I mute the Fat String or Low E (just to make sure we are talking the same string.) with my middle and ring finger resting on top of the low E and A strings. Whilw my pointer finger hold down the 8 and mutes the strings below it and my pinky finger hold down the 10. This is also how Dave does it.

mfpukala11 · Post by **mfpukala11** » Fri Mar 26, 2004 7:35 pm

TOMAMI wrote:Phatnev

1st. You are learning a style of playing that makes Dave so F___ ing good

dave isnt THAT good. yeah he's got a unique style, but he's not a god on guitar. just throwin that out there.

one thing is for sure...he's better than me, i have trouble playin "his style"

Silk · Post by **Silk** » Sat Mar 27, 2004 9:08 am

Try playing Stone if you want to get that muting down xD It's fun, but hell is that intro hard to get down... I'm up to where I can play it well, just not quite fast enough

mikee · Post by **mikee** » Sat Mar 27, 2004 10:18 am

mfpukala11 wrote:
TOMAMI wrote:Phatnev

1st. You are learning a style of playing that makes Dave so F___ ing good
dave isnt THAT good. yeah he's got a unique style, but he's not a god on guitar. just throwin that out there.

one thing is for sure...he's better than me, i have trouble playin "his style"

I will give you credit for Dave "not being a god", but you certainly cannot say "Dave isn't that good". Dave might not be the soloing, crazy riff master that Jimi Hendrix is; But his style is incredibly unique and extremely brilliant. Dave has a much different way of playing and doesn't play yur typical open chords. I'm sure this is all obvious. But as you said "one thing is for sure....he's better than me", wait until he's not better than you before you make a statement like "Dave isn't that good"

mfpukala11 · Post by **mfpukala11** » Sat Mar 27, 2004 2:13 pm

dmbmikee wrote:
mfpukala11 wrote:
TOMAMI wrote:Phatnev

1st. You are learning a style of playing that makes Dave so F___ ing good
dave isnt THAT good. yeah he's got a unique style, but he's not a god on guitar. just throwin that out there.

one thing is for sure...he's better than me, i have trouble playin "his style"
I will give you credit for Dave "not being a god", but you certainly cannot say "Dave isn't that good". Dave might not be the soloing, crazy riff master that Jimi Hendrix is; But his style is incredibly unique and extremely brilliant. Dave has a much different way of playing and doesn't play yur typical open chords. I'm sure this is all obvious. But as you said "one thing is for sure....he's better than me", wait until he's not better than you before you make a statement like "Dave isn't that good"

i can make that statement "dave isnt that good" because it's true! in the grand scheme of the guitar world, dave is nowhere near the top 100 guitarists...hell, he's admitted it!

and you wanna know why he's not that good? because all his songs, even though many of them have creatively written parts to them, can ALL be learned (and perfected) in a year if you work at it enough. i'm sure the top guitarists/song writers of the world, their repertoire could not be learned and perfected in a year.

the man formed a band that i have loved for the past 6 years, he's the reason i started playing guitar. however, it doesnt mean that he's the awesome player that people on this site make him out to be.