Butch Taylor

bngholio14 · Post by **bngholio14** » Wed Feb 04, 2004 2:50 pm

I agree. I think when you compare Too Much from LS and Too Much from Live in Chicago, the Chicago version sounds alot better due to Tim's guitar. I just dont think that Butches part sounds all that great.

i like tictacs · Post by **i like tictacs** » Wed Feb 04, 2004 3:03 pm

butch has made so many songs what they are today...examples: two step, watchtower, dont drink the water...PIG

i say keep him whether he's ibn the band or not doesn't matter, but he definatley adds alot, theres no denying it. he's very underrated because he isn't up dancing or whatever.

bngholio14 · Post by **bngholio14** » Wed Feb 04, 2004 3:31 pm

Definatley. I agree he makes many songs great. I love him on Two Step. Just saying some of his parts arent all that great.

jeffro · Post by **jeffro** » Wed Feb 04, 2004 8:26 pm

I don't like him that much, he's an amazing piano player, but I don't think he fits in with DMB. It's probably a genre thing, but I liked Peter Greisar with DMB better (I.E. Two step salsa jam, Jimi Thing, etc.) IMHO

DJR · Post by **DJR** » Wed Feb 04, 2004 9:32 pm

i voted for the yes and no, yes because he "enhances" many songs, such as the before mentioned crush, and think of the two step solos, but also i was thinking no, because DMB to me just wouldn't be the same with 6 people, maybe thats just me, but i keep thinking back to that quintet poster, and think, thats all there should be
he's a great player, i love listening to him, but an official member? sorry butch

TrippingBillie · Post by **TrippingBillie** » Wed Feb 04, 2004 9:41 pm

I heard he was in two cd's.

acousticraven · Post by **acousticraven** » Wed Feb 04, 2004 9:51 pm

Ranting Thespian wrote:
acousticraven wrote:But then again.. this is asking.. "why isn't Timmy in DMB" heh
he's got his own thing going, he just goes on because he is their good friend, and amazing. He does his own tours, and wants to be known for HIS music, not dmb.

Yea I know Tim Reynolds does his own thing.. =P

mbgreen · Post by **mbgreen** » Wed Feb 04, 2004 10:39 pm

i like tictacs wrote:butch has made so many songs what they are today...examples: two step, watchtower, dont drink the water...PIG i say keep him whether he's ibn the band or not doesn't matter, but he definatley adds alot, theres no denying it. he's very underrated because he isn't up dancing or whatever.

I see it as exactly the opposite, especially with those songs. Butch smooths out the sound of the band too much. I liked them better when their music had a little punch, a little bite. Butch adds soooo much blending, it ends up ruining things for me. Two step with butch is a yawner...you know there's going to be some 10 minute slow piano solo (now think how much better tim's solo is on redrocks, for example.) That song used to kick, and with butch on it, its just bleh. Listener supported two step doesnt have shit on redrocks, or any 96 two step. Even Peter (the old keys guy) was better...he played with a lot more "umph."

Id rather it be just the five than have butch.

DJR · Post by **DJR** » Fri Feb 06, 2004 2:52 pm

mbgreen wrote:
i like tictacs wrote:butch has made so many songs what they are today...examples: two step, watchtower, dont drink the water...PIG i say keep him whether he's ibn the band or not doesn't matter, but he definatley adds alot, theres no denying it. he's very underrated because he isn't up dancing or whatever.
I see it as exactly the opposite, especially with those songs. Butch smooths out the sound of the band too much. I liked them better when their music had a little punch, a little bite. Butch adds soooo much blending, it ends up ruining things for me. Two step with butch is a yawner...you know there's going to be some 10 minute slow piano solo (now think how much better tim's solo is on redrocks, for example.) That song used to kick, and with butch on it, its just bleh. Listener supported two step doesnt have shit on redrocks, or any 96 two step. Even Peter (the old keys guy) was better...he played with a lot more "umph."

Id rather it be just the five than have butch.

how can you like the old ending of two step better? i usually skip over two step on RR cause of the ending
the newer ending, like on LS of FF is so much better, it showcases the bands, especially carters, skills of playing together, watch dave at the end of two step after they NAIL the ending on LS, priceless

Cor · Post by **Cor** » Fri Feb 06, 2004 7:23 pm

Maybe I'm asking for trouble, but does anyone NOT like Timmy?

I don't really like his playing, and I don't think he fits with the band.

Cory

DJR · Post by **DJR** » Fri Feb 06, 2004 7:43 pm

YOU WHAT?!?!?!?!?!?! nah i'm just kidding, you're entitled to your opinion

Cor · Post by **Cor** » Fri Feb 06, 2004 9:03 pm

DJR07 wrote:YOU WHAT?!?!?!?!?!?! nah i'm just kidding, you're entitled to your opinion

Hee hee. Thanks dude. I just realized your avatar had tortex on it. Never noticed it before, I just thought it was a turtle.

Cory

Speenis · Post by **Speenis** » Fri Feb 06, 2004 9:26 pm

DJR07 wrote:i voted for the yes and no, yes because he "enhances" many songs, such as the before mentioned crush, and think of the two step solos, but also i was thinking no, because DMB to me just wouldn't be the same with 6 people, maybe thats just me, but i keep thinking back to that quintet poster, and think, thats all there should be
he's a great player, i love listening to him, but an official member? sorry butch

i am looking at that quintet poster right now. dave is jammin out hardcore with his chet

mbgreen · Post by **mbgreen** » Fri Feb 06, 2004 10:01 pm

DJR07 wrote:
mbgreen wrote:
i like tictacs wrote:butch has made so many songs what they are today...examples: two step, watchtower, dont drink the water...PIG i say keep him whether he's ibn the band or not doesn't matter, but he definatley adds alot, theres no denying it. he's very underrated because he isn't up dancing or whatever.
I see it as exactly the opposite, especially with those songs. Butch smooths out the sound of the band too much. I liked them better when their music had a little punch, a little bite. Butch adds soooo much blending, it ends up ruining things for me. Two step with butch is a yawner...you know there's going to be some 10 minute slow piano solo (now think how much better tim's solo is on redrocks, for example.) That song used to kick, and with butch on it, its just bleh. Listener supported two step doesnt have shit on redrocks, or any 96 two step. Even Peter (the old keys guy) was better...he played with a lot more "umph."

Id rather it be just the five than have butch.
how can you like the old ending of two step better? i usually skip over two step on RR cause of the ending
the newer ending, like on LS of FF is so much better, it showcases the bands, especially carters, skills of playing together, watch dave at the end of two step after they NAIL the ending on LS, priceless

I dont mind the newer endings. I just dont like the Butch playing a solo, or having Butch smooth out the newer endings...thats all I was getting at.

Overall though, I think two step isnt quite what it used to be. I liked it better when it was more "back-woods" style...thats what the song was meant to be like. I think its a little too polished now. Like its lost a little edginess, or punch. And I think Butch's keys are partially responsible.

fret · Post by **fret** » Fri Feb 06, 2004 10:25 pm

I think Butch is great, and I enjoy the live concerts with him (which is all of them), Infact I normally shout props for him if I am close enough to the stage.. "yeah butchy!!" but i agree with DJR07, not an official part of the band... The band, not d&t, will probably never play BWBF without their original keyboardest.. Has it been performed without the other dude?

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