keys???

[blaze]

how do you know what key a song is in??

[DustyDave]

Well according to my research it really depends on alot , i've heard so many people who knows their stuff say that its based around the first chord you start on , the last chord you play , if there is 2 same chords in the song , and so on , there is alot of unverifyed facts about that , i just go by what sounds good in my ears , i don't need to know the keys , even though theory is interesting , it still can be rather confusing when you hear too many different opinions , not to mention the same chord can have so many different names and people name them differently

[fatjack]

Well according to my research it really depends on alot , i've heard so many people who knows their stuff say that its based around the first chord you start on , the last chord you play , if there is 2 same chords in the song , and so on , there is alot of unverifyed facts about that , i just go by what sounds good in my ears , i don't need to know the keys , even though theory is interesting , it still can be rather confusing when you hear too many different opinions , not to mention the same chord can have so many different names and people name them differently

you make it sound like a mystery Dusty...

it all depends on what chords are in the song, if you are lucky the chords will fit into one key, but more often than not it will be in different keys

[DustyDave]

Sorry FJ , didn't mean to make it sound like a mystery , more like an unsolved puzzle to what really is right and wrong with so many different opinions

[fatjack]

Sorry FJ , didn't mean to make it sound like a mystery , more like an unsolved puzzle to what really is right and wrong with so many different opinions

it isn't really an unsolved puzzle either...

those "different opinions" of which you speak usually have to do with songs that have many keys or do not fit into a particular major scale. for the most part, discerning the key of a song is rather easy

[DustyDave]

Shed some lights over it then

[fatjack]

Shed some lights over it then

WAY too much to try to explain in a single post, if anyone is interested, they can IM me, but its not just one thing that you need to know, you have to have basic knowledge of certain things

[blaze]

ok starting to catch on thanks to dmbtabs and differant sorces like this.

http://www.drpsychotic.com/strike_a_cho ... chord.html

ok what does this mean? ((( don't get it )))

"The E Minor pure scale is actually the same scale as the G Major scale, the only difference is that the E minor pure scale is played in the ((( Aeolian mode ))). E minor is also the ((( relative minor key))) to the key of G Major."

[ericwormann]

ok starting to catch on thanks to dmbtabs and differant sorces like this.

http://www.drpsychotic.com/strike_a_cho ... chord.html

ok what does this mean? ((( don't get it )))

"The E Minor pure scale is actually the same scale as the G Major scale, the only difference is that the E minor pure scale is played in the ((( Aeolian mode ))). E minor is also the ((( relative minor key))) to the key of G Major."

Aeolian mode is too much to explain in one post, but i'll try to explain what the other stuff means:

The key of E minor is based on these notes:
E F# G A B C D

The key of G major is based on these notes:
G A B C D E F#

If you notice, they are the same notes, just in a different order. You use them differently, so the keys have a different "feel" to them, but they are based on the same notes so you refer to E minor as the Relative Minor Key of G major.

[DreaminBassMunky]

Each individual scale has 7 other modes to it. A mode is simply playing the same scale but starting with a different root note. For instance if I am in the key of C major, but I play starting on D and go from D(root) to D(ocatave) but in the key of C Major it would be known as D Dorian. THe Aeolian mode is also known as the relative minor. It starts on the 6th scale degree, and is a pure minor scale, containing the same notes as it's relative major scale. I love music theory, although it can get rather confusing look at it this way.

C Major:
C D E F G A B C

A minor (Aeloian):
A B C D E F G A

Same notes, but they start on different roots.

I find the easiet was to determine a key is to take all the chords you play in a given sequence and break them down into what notes you are playing. From there you can determine what key you are in by determining what notes you are playing, and how many sharps or flats there are. The overall key of a song is a lot harder to determine, because there can be key changes all over the place.

[fatjack]

Each individual scale has 7 other modes to it. A mode is simply playing the same scale but starting with a different root note. For instance if I am in the key of C major, but I play starting on D and go from D(root) to D(ocatave) but in the key of C Major it would be known as D Dorian. THe Aeolian mode is also known as the relative minor. It starts on the 6th scale degree, and is a pure minor scale, containing the same notes as it's relative major scale. I love music theory, although it can get rather confusing look at it this way.

C Major:
C D E F G A B C

A minor (Aeloian):
A B C D E F G A

Same notes, but they start on different roots.

I find the easiet was to determine a key is to take all the chords you play in a given sequence and break them down into what notes you are playing. From there you can determine what key you are in by determining what notes you are playing, and how many sharps or flats there are. The overall key of a song is a lot harder to determine, because there can be key changes all over the place.

yay! someone who isn't too lazy to explain things!

unfortunately, Munky, someone will ask this same question somewhere down the line and you'll have to write it all over again. they'll also probaly ask for oboe tabs or something

[everydayDMBfan_18]

Wait...you mean there aren't oboe tabs?

[violenticecream88]

oboe tabs! hahahaha ROFL! thats like asking someone to tab out trumpet music.

[DreaminBassMunky]

Each individual scale has 7 other modes to it. A mode is simply playing the same scale but starting with a different root note. For instance if I am in the key of C major, but I play starting on D and go from D(root) to D(ocatave) but in the key of C Major it would be known as D Dorian. THe Aeolian mode is also known as the relative minor. It starts on the 6th scale degree, and is a pure minor scale, containing the same notes as it's relative major scale. I love music theory, although it can get rather confusing look at it this way.

C Major:
C D E F G A B C

A minor (Aeloian):
A B C D E F G A

Same notes, but they start on different roots.

I find the easiet was to determine a key is to take all the chords you play in a given sequence and break them down into what notes you are playing. From there you can determine what key you are in by determining what notes you are playing, and how many sharps or flats there are. The overall key of a song is a lot harder to determine, because there can be key changes all over the place.

yay! someone who isn't too lazy to explain things!

unfortunately, Munky, someone will ask this same question somewhere down the line and you'll have to write it all over again. they'll also probaly ask for oboe tabs or something

haha well I've got a close friend who plays oboe so I'll talk to her about that. And if worst comes to worst I'll find this post and copy and paste it to anyone who needs it . Theory is basically my life. It's pretty sad, but I guess kind of helpful.

[DreaminBassMunky]

oboe tabs! hahahaha ROFL! thats like asking someone to tab out trumpet music.

don't laugh I've seen it before...