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Unread post by DmbFanJason » Sun Jan 26, 2003 2:39 pm

They are trying to moderate and monitor past there abilities again...Here's a quote from Xoosh(king moderator and writer of the hit single "Anna"):

"Jason, im gonna ask you to leave the board now. Im not going to ban you yet, but if you start poking around again, you will be banned."

This guy thinks he can ban me...wouldnt I just be able to sign up under a different e-mail address? :roll:

anyway...does anyone hear believe that my first two threads should have been taken out?(not the "fuck you" or the "hey!?!?" threads, the other ones). I mean yes...they did have some cuss words, and I know mommy would not approve, but is that a reason to take the whole thread out? It was a friggin joke as I explained inside the thread.

Xoosh, you make me laugh...what the HELL do you bring to the boards as a moderator? You don't know shit about dave, you dont even back him up when people are dogging him, you can't play his music, you dont even have your own opinion about shit because it is always swayed by what other people think...your sole purpose is to have this mighty hand that can take out threads and threaten people...you're such a fag and you're the one that should be banned....I mean seriously, who puts a fuckin glamour shot of themselves on their avatar?

taking me off the boards would be a mistake...you are pretty much alone on getting me banned you moron...me and just a few other people make these boards go round...and ever since you have moderated peoples opinions, the boards are boring as fuck.
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Unread post by DmbFanJason » Sun Jan 26, 2003 2:49 pm

seriously Xoosh....what is your purpose on these boards....you can't honestly tell me that all you are capable of doing is taking out threads?
oh yeah...you can make stickies too...so why should you have privileges and not me? I know way more about dave and his style and playing his music than you ever will, and i can play circles around you(not that that matters a whole lot)...plus, i would never ever take out a post or a thread especially one with someones opinion on it...Giving that I know way more about dave and pay extremely close attention to detail, i think i should have a spot on these boards...especially tabbing songs out, because i still see errors on the tablature...well, lets take a poll...........
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Unread post by johntherevelator » Sun Jan 26, 2003 3:00 pm

wow
that was a hardcore lip

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Unread post by gravedigger » Sun Jan 26, 2003 3:03 pm

but seriously, there was no need to delete dmbfanjason's thread with his cover of WWYS. some people were listening and sharing their thoughts, which is what the Forum is for right? and so sue of us if we try to lighten' or livin' things up by jokin around. If you don't want curse words like fuck in the thread topic than tell us so, don't just say "show your head around here again and your banned" well what's the use of being a member anyway if you can't come here and post and shit. That reminds me of a suggestion. later,

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Unread post by Brock » Sun Jan 26, 2003 3:21 pm

I'm not taking sides in this one.

However, I do have some strong feelings about this.
First off, Jason CAN play circles around almost anyone on these boards, and he DOES do a shitload of stuff to contribute to the boards and the dmb community.
I agree that there needs to be some sort of posted rules about posting (I agree with the no cussing in the titles) so that we know beforehand.
As jkanter said a while back (can't remember when/too lazy to search for thread), we don't want to resort to banning people (and we CERTAINLY shouldn't in this situation, it was a fucking misunderstanding); hell, winston hasn't even been banned :wink:

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Unread post by hd28v » Sun Jan 26, 2003 4:12 pm

I really should not step in the middle of this b/c #1 I suck at guitar and #2 I only been member here for a month. So I will attempt to be brief. DMBfanJason, no need to use mass harsh language. Also, are you in love with Dave? I mean "in love" as do you jerk off to him? It sure sounds like it. Can you play the skin flute as good as you play your guitar.

Anyway, xoosh--you have the authority and earned it and I see Jason as wanting to overthrown you and everyone else.

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Unread post by johntherevelator » Sun Jan 26, 2003 4:20 pm

you know what i think?
i think jason apologize to xoosh for offending moomy with the use of curse words and xoosh should apologize to jason for threatening to ban him from the boards
really, in my opinion, it doesnt matter who can play circles around who cuz this really isnt something worth getting into a big fight for

geez, just shake hands and go about life as normal
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Unread post by DmbFanJason » Sun Jan 26, 2003 4:31 pm

hd28v wrote:I really should not step in the middle of this b/c #1 I suck at guitar and #2 I only been member here for a month. So I will attempt to be brief. DMBfanJason, no need to use mass harsh language. Also, are you in love with Dave? I mean "in love" as do you jerk off to him? It sure sounds like it. Can you play the skin flute as good as you play your guitar.

Anyway, xoosh--you have the authority and earned it and I see Jason as wanting to overthrown you and everyone else.

I probably will get scorned for this post but so be it.

guy, how the fuck do you know that he "earned" his authority....I would guess he gave kanter a blow job...in any event, he was at the right place at the right time.

and you are right, you havent been here very long so you dont have a clue as to whats going on so shut your pi-hole........

and people, give me a break...."I can play circles around you" HENCE HENCE HENCE THE HENCE THE THE THE ""(not that it really matters)""...

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Unread post by ticohans » Sun Jan 26, 2003 4:54 pm

Jason, while I'm not about to dispute the fact that you can play the guitar well, let me say that it lends absolutely NOTHING to your credibility. Who cares if you can play a few Dave covers?? We can listen to Dave if we want that, so get off your pathetic high horse for a moment and take a look at the things you say. I could care less about the guitar playing abilities of anyone on this board. This is not a contest to see who's the best cover player or anything meaningless like that. You continually show disrespect for EVERYONE else's ideas UNLESS they agree with you ONE HUNDRED PERCENT of the time. This by no means is an "I want to have Dave Matthews' Children" board as you'd like it to be, and yet, whenever anyone expresses an opinion that's somehow negative about Dave, or that says that there are better guitar players or songwriters, you immediately flame them to no end and tell them to leave the boards "because they aren't true Dave fans." Well, I'm sick of showing respect for your pathetic views on music when you cannot have the decency to at least pretend like you listen to the opinions of others. Like I said before, I could care less if you can play a few Dave covers. You freaking devote your life to this and it's just sad. Just because you derive your life's meaning from repeating the guitar work of some druggie 30 year old white guy doesn't mean that others have to. You've told me before that you think playing these Dave songs is REALLY IMPORTANT like it has some sort of GREAT AND ULTIMATE MEANING in life. Crap man, if ANYONE spent as much time as you did trying to get Dave's stuff down, they could do it just as well. It doesn't take talent or skill to do that, just time, and you've put loads of time into it. You seem to think that no one will ever be able to play Dave as well as you- you've said this to me. Who the hell gives a rip if you can repeat Dave's music like some sort of obsessed, infatuated parrot. You think you're some sort of musical god, but to anyone who has actually been exposed to even a very few people who actually know a thing or two about music, it's obvious that you are totally ignorant. Like I said before, yeah you can play Dave songs well, but Dave songs, in the vast ocean of music, are nothing but a very, very small ripple. Get some perspective. I'd be miserable if the view from the seat of my life were as narrow as yours. If you want some respect, then show respect to other people. If you want you opinion to be considered, then consider the opinion of others. If you want people to engage in meaningful conversation with you, stop being so freaking arrogant. Your arrogance is sickening. Insulting people does NOTHING to improve your arguments or add weight to your statements. If anything, it only exposes your ignorance: it's easy as hell to say that someone is a homosexual when you don't have anything intelligent to say in an argument.

"You don't know shit about dave, you dont even back him up when people are dogging him, you can't play his music, you dont even have your own opinion about shit because it is always swayed by what other people think"

Here's a perfect example of what I'm saying. The first statement is total stupidity. I don't even need to explain that one. The second statement ("you don't back [Dave] up when people are doggin him" shows exactly what I was talking about before. You worship Dave, and that's pathetic. Also, you accuse Xoosh of Big Brother-esque moderation, when you fail to see that you are the more taken up with groupthink than anyone else. You think that everyone should think that Dave is perfect in every way, and if they don't then they're definitely wrong. Let people think for themselves. If you want that priviledge here on these boards, then grant it to others. And finally, to address the third statement, if you think Xoosh has never disagreed with anyone on these boards or stated an opinion of his, I suggest you take your head out of your ass and actually read what other people say, instead of trying to figure out cool new ways of saying that someone is gay in an effort to win an argument.

"I know way more about dave and his style and playing his music than you ever will"

Here's another great statement. You, being the Dave and guitar god that you are, didn't even know that there was such a think as standard tuning. An in terms of the theory, you are totally and completely inept, inane, and incoherent.

There is a reason that you have been reacted to as strongly as Xoosh did: you have a history of this. If someone who is usually very respectful posted a thread like you did, Xoosh wouldn't have been so harsh. But your history is full of instances of you being a jerk and then being warned about it. So quit acting like you're innocent or something and own up to the reality of your behavior. If you're going to give the amount of crap that you do, you better be prepared to accept truckloads of it back. But no. You're a whiny little bitch whenever someone posts something negative about a cover of yours or an opinion that you have. You can tear others to bits. If anyone does it to you, you act like the whole world has collapsed on your poor, feeble little shoulders because someone didn't like the way you played Dave. You poor little thing.

And finally to address the issue of deleted threads, Xoosh HAS said to the WHOLE COMMUNITY that we are NOT supposed to post threads with profanity in the subject headings, but that it was ok within the threads themselves. Given that this is the case, I see no problem with the deleting of threads that are in violation of this rule.

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Unread post by ticohans » Sun Jan 26, 2003 4:58 pm

DmbFanJason wrote:
hd28v wrote:I really should not step in the middle of this b/c #1 I suck at guitar and #2 I only been member here for a month. So I will attempt to be brief. DMBfanJason, no need to use mass harsh language. Also, are you in love with Dave? I mean "in love" as do you jerk off to him? It sure sounds like it. Can you play the skin flute as good as you play your guitar.

Anyway, xoosh--you have the authority and earned it and I see Jason as wanting to overthrown you and everyone else.

I probably will get scorned for this post but so be it.

guy, how the fuck do you know that he "earned" his authority....I would guess he gave kanter a blow job...in any event, he was at the right place at the right time.

and you are right, you havent been here very long so you dont have a clue as to whats going on so shut your pi-hole........

and people, give me a break...."I can play circles around you" HENCE HENCE HENCE THE HENCE THE THE THE ""(not that it really matters)""...
See this exactly the sort of ignorant drivel that I'm talking about. You freaking asked for other people's opinions. hd gave his. Live with it.

How did Xoosh get his authority?? He works his butt of here. Dude, if you're so power hungry, you go and create your own DMB site where you can worship him as you'd like. Hey, maybe you'll find a few sickos who are as star crazed and as obsessed as you are.

And finally, I'll say it again, if you think that what you have to say is in any way special because you're a really good parrot, you need to get a clue.

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Unread post by ticohans » Sun Jan 26, 2003 5:08 pm

Here's what others have had to say about Jason and these issues

Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2003 1:13 am Post subject: Re: Pay For What You Get Cover/Mp3!!

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DmbFanJason wrote:
yo yo yo...its not about opinion fool

DmbFanJason wrote:
I want to know yalls take on it....lata!

DmbFanJason wrote:
i am not wrong, you just dont have a good ear

DmbFanJason wrote:
all you punkasses who voted against me....I suggest you take all the wax out of your ears

DmbFanJason wrote:
i am god on the guitar

DmbFanJason wrote:
geez...look at those votes...that means 8 out of 12 people are deaf

DmbFanJason wrote:
i feel sorry for you for you have excess amounts of wax in your ears

First off, I'd like to note that I do feel that you're covers are pretty damn good. I'd also like to say that I neither have the recording equipment, nor the time/energy to record my own covers, and I'd like to apologize, oh dear, merciful lord, for my inadequacies at playing guitar. Please cast upon me any punishment you deem fitting for not being as fucking good as thou. Ok, dude, after sitting here and reading enumerous posts made by you, I've come to the conclusion that you're are simply, and most definately, a dirty, dirty douche. That's right, a douche. You sit in front of a computer screen all day, posting covers that, yes, put other's covers to shame, and sit here and rant about how shitty their's are compared to your own. You're good, but you're not in any way a master at what you do. I'm sure you're ass paid a lot of money to take guitar lesson's, get your finger's really strong, and wasted a lot of time sitting at home on your ass, looking at tabs that are, might I add, tabbed from video, and thus assure ACCURACY, and then play them into a microphone, add a fill or two and a "jam" and call it your own. And it doesn't take much else to upload that song to a website, and have a thread that ridicules other people's playing and commands praise under the guise of being a friendly post informing other's that "god" has released another song. Get off your high horse, man, and learn some damned dignity and respect. Not everyone's as good as you are, and more importantly, not everyone cares to be as good as you are, and MOST importantly, not everyone's gives a shit how good you are. As far as I'm concerned, you're just another talented musician, no better than any other talented musician.

In response to this whole post, who exactly gives a flying fuck? Does it really matter? You're repeatedly state that one string is the difference, that it changes the song completely, and then in the same breath, you state that the wax-eared "punkasses" should be able to tell, if they could play guitar decently, that the high-E notes are played by Tim. Doesn't that mean that they are in deed being played, and whether or not someone chooses to play them doesn't fucking matter because any way you look at it, the notes are being played? You know, Dave and the boys do play songs differently some times. It's called a "fill". I'm sure you've heard of it. It's a note or series of notes played in between the normal chord progressions to give the song that extra "something". Or maybe you've heard of "alternate chord formations"? A different way of playing a chord. Or here's a good one...and get ready for this because it's not something you are used to hearing and taking to heart...maybe you're just wrong. It could possibly be, god, that you're the one who needs to use a q-tip on his ears. Did you ever think of that? Or is your mind too simple and one-sided to understand that we all make mistakes, no matter how omniscient we may feel we are.

I'd also like to point out that you are, by definition, easily the stupidest person on the board.
Stupid: adj. irrational; foolish; fallacious
Fallacious: adj. having an argument lacking in sound logic; containing a fallacy

Examples of fallacies in Jason's posts:
1)ad hominem-attacking the man and not the argument: "all you punkasses who voted against me, i suggest you take all the wax out of your ears"
2)false analogy-assuming that because two things are alike in one way, they are the same in another: i.e. "i hear it this way, i play it this way, therefore, dave plays it that way"
3)false authority-the assumption that an expert in one field is an expert in another: i.e. "i play guitar better than you; therefore, i have a better here than all you punkasses"
4)false dilemna-stating only 2 alternatives exist when others do: i.e. "either i'm right, or you're wrong"
5)guilt by association-unfair bias and prejudice: i.e. any of the racial slurs made by the fallacious one
6)hasty generalization-a generalization based on too little facts: i.e. the fact that you state that dave always plays it like you say he does based on one account
7)non sequiter-an idea that does not follow a previously asserted statement: i.e. one note does not change the entire song, and your next post states, my WWYS is different, and noone's complaining
8)red herring-dodging the real issue with an unrelated topic: you're simply dodging the fact that you're a dirty douche by trying to make everyone feel stupid. But in reality, you're the stupid one. I've never seen so many fallacies come from one person in my entire life. You are the degrading element of society, the reason that we slip further and further away from intellectual greatness. And before you try and attack me, just realize that I am smarter than you, and there's nothing that you can do to disprove that. So quit trying to be so damned magnanimous, and make like a douche and clean some pussy.

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Unread post by ticohans » Sun Jan 26, 2003 5:10 pm

And Jason, since you don't seem to respect the authority of Xoosh, here's what JKanter has had to say in the past:

Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2003 2:19 am Post subject:

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I don't like to get into these arguements on my board because I feel that me saying anything too inappropriate brings down the integrity of the site(even though this post, and others like this, already do)....But I HAVE TO GET INTO THIS ONE........

What do ya know....another FUCKING thread gone to shit because of Jason. Listen up man.....what the fuck is your reason for even posting shit like that? OK, you want to get everyone's opinions.....but they are ALL wrong when they disagree with you. Ya know what.....YOU MAY BE RIGHT, but I guarantee you that there are def some people who voted for the way on my site....JUST BECAUSE IT'S NOT WHAT YOU AGREE WITH. I listened to the clip....your right, it doesn't sound like he plays that high E. I can also tell you that I BET he has played it with the high E.....I don't know, but it's such a subtle difference(and also sounds somewhat correct since as you say, Timmy plays it) that why could he NOT play it that way...YOU ARE GOING ON ONE VERSION.

I don't even think that this thread has anything to do with that anymore. STOP being a dick. When talking on AIM you aren't anything like what your acting here. I don't know what your trying to prove but I guarantee you no one here really gives a shit....and if they really do.....they have to understand that this is a message board online.

You have gone about changes on the site the RIGHT way before...IMing me or E-Mailing me. Just to let you remember....there were MANY changes that you had suggested to me through e-mail that YOU WERE WRONG ABOUT.....FROM WATCHING VIDEO'S. I could easily have said to you....WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU THINKING....CAN'T YOU USE THOSE EYES OF YOURS, IT'S BLATANTLY OBVIOUS WHAT HE'S PLAYING. But I didn't, I nicely stated how I saw things and told you what why. It's your actions and how you carry yourself that get you places....not being an asshole.

I don't know what your trying to prove here....if it's about acting tough, no one believes the act. While I don't think it's possible to really agree with him much....Winston really did put it perfectly in the first reply....I am not trying to be a dick....but you are being a fucking idiot about the way you are going about this.....STOP THIS SHIT.....THERE IS NO NEED FOR SUCH ARGUEMENT, ALL JUST WANT TO LISTEN TO, AND PLAY MUSIC, NOT ARGUE OVER STUPID SHIT LIKE THIS

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Unread post by DmbFanJason » Sun Jan 26, 2003 5:23 pm

man tico, i bet you;re a skinny pale poetry writing faggot...seriously whos gonna take the time to read those posts, you fuckin moron...

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Unread post by ticohans » Sun Jan 26, 2003 5:26 pm

Ahh, yet more proof for the things I have to say. You do a really good job of proving yourself wrong. If you would actually bother to read, you'd know what I'm talking about. Also, the last two of the three are quoted posts from other threads and not my own words as I indicate at the beginning of each.

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Unread post by DmbFanJason » Sun Jan 26, 2003 5:34 pm

AllMighty TICOHANS...you faggot. got copy and paste more shit...thats a good way to spend your time.

You couldnt play dave for the life of you.

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