Clarity is my favorite song on his new Album. Love that song, and its easy too. number 11 I believe sounds a lot like something that Dave would write/play. Just my opinion though
mbgreen wrote:Here's my extended take on just about anyone versus Mayer. Mayer knows his theory. Yawn. He has no passion behind his music. I think a lot of people get caught up in theory and worry about the mechanics of the music more than the actual finished project. Its like being the structural engineer versus the architect. People arent touched by a great structural design. They remember a beautiful building. To me, Mayer seems to be writing music just for the sake of writing music. Theory-wise, its really sound, and actually impressive. There's no emotion behind what hes doing though, at least in my eyes. He's a musician, and not much of an artist.
Ben is an artist. He can take the most simple progression and make something beautiful out of it...the guy figuratively bleeds on stage. Mayer, in my opinion, has a lot to learn about being an artist, regardless of his knowledge of theory.
exactly
Ben puts more emotion into his music than anyone
gcom007 wrote:harper's cool, but he's not half the musician mayer is, he writes a good song here and there but it's simple, basic stuff...mayer's got the goods whether you like his lyrics or not.
Mayer may know more about theory, and he might be a better musician, playing wise, but his songs DON'T hold up to Ben Harper's music. Just because Harper's songs are simple doesn't mean that they aren't powerful. His voice and song-writing skills far surpass John Mayer's poppy rubbish. There is hardly ever anything meaningful in a Mayer song, unless you think showing everyone up at the high school reunion is meaningful.
Just because Mayer can kick ass on the guitar doesn't make him a better musician. There has to be substance to the songs, something which Mayer sorely lacks.
hahahahhahahahahahhahahahahahha, thats the funnest shit ever .
i think its just the way he sings it. the way he gets into it. and it's his voice. listening to him in studio is like listening to him live like he's holding nothing back. have you ever heard that song from mary j blige called something drama? like no more drama or something like that. that is the kind of emotion we're talking about. now granted i really don't liek that song much, but the emotion behind it makes it worth listening too. you'll have to hear it for yourself probably. but that's the best way i can describe it
Appsoldier wrote:i think its just the way he sings it. the way he gets into it. and it's his voice. listening to him in studio is like listening to him live like he's holding nothing back. have you ever heard that song from mary j blige called something drama? like no more drama or something like that. that is the kind of emotion we're talking about. now granted i really don't liek that song much, but the emotion behind it makes it worth listening too. you'll have to hear it for yourself probably. but that's the best way i can describe it
it mostly is, his stuff is really easy to play except for his slide guitar stuff, that's pretty awesome. but comeon josh, you're better than that, at least give it a shot. go to walmart and put his cd under those little headphone thingies they have and just listen to like 5 minutes of something he plays. it really is awesome...but at least then you can say that you heard it then you decided you didn't like it
EDIT: are you talking about ben harper. casue i really can't believe that you haven't heard his stuff already. are we still talking about the same guy?
Appsoldier wrote:it mostly is, his stuff is really easy to play except for his slide guitar stuff, that's pretty awesome. but comeon josh, you're better than that, at least give it a shot. go to walmart and put his cd under those little headphone thingies they have and just listen to like 5 minutes of something he plays. it really is awesome...but at least then you can say that you heard it then you decided you didn't like it
EDIT: are you talking about ben harper. casue i really can't believe that you haven't heard his stuff already. are we still talking about the same guy?
i had never heard about ben harper until i read the posts about him on the boards.