Is John Mayer a better guitar player than Dave Matthews?

DmbFanJason · Post by **DmbFanJason** » Thu May 15, 2003 8:31 pm

I havent heard one person on these boards that can duplicate Daves songs exactly, not even me

........theres a difference between playing the right notes and playing the song right...john mayer is a great guitarist though

The Man of The Hour · Post by **The Man of The Hour** » Thu May 15, 2003 9:23 pm

DmbFanJason wrote:I havent heard one person on these boards that can duplicate Daves songs exactly, not even me ........theres a difference between playing the right notes and playing the song right...john mayer is a great guitarist though

Good point, but I've yet to see someone come remotely close to playing like mayer as well..

firedancer86 · Post by **firedancer86** » Thu May 15, 2003 9:36 pm

and if someone did...it just wouldn't be right...something very obtuse...like a bearded child...

Buck23 · Post by **Buck23** » Fri May 16, 2003 4:47 pm

I think we need to differentiate between better guitarist and better musician. One is clearly a matter of proficiency, technical skill, and other things (I dont know the full measure of a good guitarist since I dont claim to be one...yet

). But being a better musician is more of a combination of the above with aesthetic pleasure, which can be argued until the end of time. Look at Thelonius Monk. Not the most "technically proficient" pianist ever, in fact his style has even been described as "sloppy". Yet he is hailed as one of the great jazz musicians of his time (and maybe all time). It's pretty clear to me that John is a more technically skilled guitarist, and thats fine. That's not a comparison between the two as songwriters, singers, the total package. To argue who is better overall is futile, since the fact that we are posting here gives us a de facto bias. We're all on these boards because we love Dave's music. Many of us also enjoy Mayer's music (at least I do). To say Mayer is a better guitarist is (in my opinion) true, hands down, but it seems people want to use that as a measure of who is the better musician. That, to many, is a title reserved for Dave Matthews, for the time being.

DustyDave · Post by **DustyDave** » Sat May 17, 2003 1:45 pm

DmbFanJason wrote:I havent heard one person on these boards that can duplicate Daves songs exactly, not even me ........theres a difference between playing the right notes and playing the song right...john mayer is a great guitarist though

Then stop saying " If i don't play it , Dave don't play it " thats just annoying when you say that lol ....

DmbFanJason · Post by **DmbFanJason** » Sat May 17, 2003 2:48 pm

lol, get off my nuts...I totally forgot about that

DustyDave · Post by **DustyDave** » Sat May 17, 2003 3:25 pm

DmbFanJason wrote:lol, get off my nuts...I totally forgot about that

I haven't

subotai · Post by **subotai** » Sun May 18, 2003 12:31 am

Hey Mayer also did a cover of NSync.

MattyTrane · Post by **MattyTrane** » Sun May 18, 2003 12:33 am

thats kinda cool, i wouldnt pay to see it, but interesting

DustyDave · Post by **DustyDave** » Sun May 18, 2003 8:11 am

subotai wrote:Hey Mayer also did a cover of NSync.

Watch the Instore video of it , he goes from that NSync cover into No Such Thing where he does some crazy assed solo work

subotai · Post by **subotai** » Sun May 18, 2003 4:43 pm

Ugh NSync is gay. Im not watching that.

jsgksu · Post by **jsgksu** » Sun May 18, 2003 4:46 pm

I just watched the Any Given Thursday DVD and that intro to Man On The Side was ridiculous. I dont think Dave could pull that off but I guess I really dont know, it was amazing though. Anyone else know what Im talking about?

DustyDave · Post by **DustyDave** » Sun May 18, 2003 4:57 pm

subotai wrote:Ugh NSync is gay. Im not watching that.

Its more like he is making fun of it

Trust me , watch it

jsgksu wrote:I just watched the Any Given Thursday DVD and that intro to Man On The Side was ridiculous. I dont think Dave could pull that off but I guess I really dont know, it was amazing though. Anyone else know what Im talking about?

I haven't seen it yet , but i can't wait to do so

jsgksu · Post by **jsgksu** » Sun May 18, 2003 5:00 pm

DustyDave wrote:I haven't seen it yet , but i can't wait to do so

Do you have the DVD? Let me know what you think if youve got it and plan on watching it later.

DustyDave · Post by **DustyDave** » Sun May 18, 2003 5:01 pm

jsgksu wrote:
DustyDave wrote:I haven't seen it yet , but i can't wait to do so
Do you have the DVD? Let me know what you think if youve got it and plan on watching it later.

Nope i haven't bought it yet , gotta check if any stores got it around here in Denmark , otherwise i gotta order it from some place else and pay a sh*tload for the shipment lol