Fretless Guitars

[kcw]

Ok what about violins, chellos, classical (dont know if its the right term) basses..etc. They dont have frets and people play them just fine. Think of the guitar (i play guitar too remember this isnt to offend anyone) as the lazy mans string instrument. Hes told where exactly to put his fingers and thus doesnt get to know the fret board as well. Its definatly possible and i garauntee Tim could do it. Its not much different than fingering chords without looking it just takes a little time and a good feel for the fret board. Its not impossible or really hard either cause playing guitar itself seems really hard until you do it for a while then what once was hard seems natural. Once you get used to it it shouldnt be that bad.

Anyone have any links to these I want to see and possibly buy.

[i like tictacs]

yep the fretless bass made me think fretless guitar, and i found some on the net. and i can play a fretless bass as well if not better than a fretted.

thats what everyone thinks, but in reality it's really out of tune and just all over the place in general

and as far as chords go, don't expect to do anything bigger then double stops or triple stops

edit: whammied by bass gods

they are easy to play, but not easy to play in tune, i think thats more what you were going for, at least i hope

[i like tictacs]

Ok what about violins, chellos, classical (dont know if its the right term) basses..etc. They dont have frets and people play them just fine. Think of the guitar (i play guitar too remember this isnt to offend anyone) as the lazy mans string instrument. Hes told where exactly to put his fingers and thus doesnt get to know the fret board as well. Its definatly possible and i garauntee Tim could do it. Its not much different than fingering chords without looking it just takes a little time and a good feel for the fret board. Its not impossible or really hard either cause playing guitar itself seems really hard until you do it for a while then what once was hard seems natural. Once you get used to it it shouldnt be that bad.

Anyone have any links to these I want to see and possibly buy.

it would be near impossible to play some barre chords perfectly in tune, the ridges of your fingers aren't even all the way across, some strings would buzz, some would be flat or sharp. it just doesn't work, end of discussion

[i am sam2]

well you say "people play them just fine"...yes thats true, there are violinists out there who are the violin version (talent wise) of tim reynolds or something. nonetheless, its easier to learn guitar, just like you said its for the lazy man. so basically i just want to say that i think(i dont know for sure cuz i cant play the violin or anything) that violin/classic instruments are probably harder to learn than guitar....anyone with experience who can actually verify/reject this?

[DMBFan63]

Ok what about violins, chellos, classical (dont know if its the right term) basses..etc. They dont have frets and people play them just fine. Think of the guitar (i play guitar too remember this isnt to offend anyone) as the lazy mans string instrument. Hes told where exactly to put his fingers and thus doesnt get to know the fret board as well. Its definatly possible and i garauntee Tim could do it. Its not much different than fingering chords without looking it just takes a little time and a good feel for the fret board. Its not impossible or really hard either cause playing guitar itself seems really hard until you do it for a while then what once was hard seems natural. Once you get used to it it shouldnt be that bad.

Anyone have any links to these I want to see and possibly buy.

it would be near impossible to play some barre chords perfectly in tune, the ridges of your fingers aren't even all the way across, some strings would buzz, some would be flat or sharp. it just doesn't work, end of discussion

I agree completely tictacs. I think MAYBE tim could play one or two note riffs on it, but there is no way he could play full chords because they're just too touchy. a millimeter off, and it sounds wrong

[mangold]

Ok what about violins, chellos, classical (dont know if its the right term) basses..etc. They dont have frets and people play them just fine. Think of the guitar (i play guitar too remember this isnt to offend anyone) as the lazy mans string instrument. Hes told where exactly to put his fingers and thus doesnt get to know the fret board as well. Its definatly possible and i garauntee Tim could do it. Its not much different than fingering chords without looking it just takes a little time and a good feel for the fret board. Its not impossible or really hard either cause playing guitar itself seems really hard until you do it for a while then what once was hard seems natural. Once you get used to it it shouldnt be that bad.

Anyone have any links to these I want to see and possibly buy.

it would be near impossible to play some barre chords perfectly in tune, the ridges of your fingers aren't even all the way across, some strings would buzz, some would be flat or sharp. it just doesn't work, end of discussion

I agree completely tictacs. I think MAYBE tim could play one or two note riffs on it, but there is no way he could play full chords because they're just too touchy. a millimeter off, and it sounds wrong

plus, i think if you observe your left hand when playing a chord, its very difficult to get your fingers right in the center of every fret, they all "pull" one direction or another. like on a G, your 3rd and 4th fingers pull towards the bridge, same with your index finger in the 41 chord. it can be done, but its hard as balls

[kcw]

Its no different than learning another skill. It just takes practice. I'm sure its difficult but not as much as you guys are making it sound.

Again think of Violinist and Chelloist.

[mangold]

Its no different than learning another skill. It just takes practice. I'm sure its difficult but not as much as you guys are making it sound.

Again think of Violinist and Chelloist.

no chords there holmes

[Machtimus]

well you say "people play them just fine"...yes thats true, there are violinists out there who are the violin version (talent wise) of tim reynolds or something. nonetheless, its easier to learn guitar, just like you said its for the lazy man. so basically i just want to say that i think(i dont know for sure cuz i cant play the violin or anything) that violin/classic instruments are probably harder to learn than guitar....anyone with experience who can actually verify/reject this?

yes a violin is MUCH harder to learn. There's also more than just hitting the right note there's a lot of technique involved in both hands. Violin (and it's sisters) are defianelty instruments one would get lessons for too. A book would be hard to describe the techniques and such, a teacher could show it much easier. etc etc.....

[gumbomadness]

well you say "people play them just fine"...yes thats true, there are violinists out there who are the violin version (talent wise) of tim reynolds or something. nonetheless, its easier to learn guitar, just like you said its for the lazy man. so basically i just want to say that i think(i dont know for sure cuz i cant play the violin or anything) that violin/classic instruments are probably harder to learn than guitar....anyone with experience who can actually verify/reject this?

yes a violin is MUCH harder to learn. There's also more than just hitting the right note there's a lot of technique involved in both hands. Violin (and it's sisters) are defianelty instruments one would get lessons for too. A book would be hard to describe the techniques and such, a teacher could show it much easier. etc etc.....

whats easier, cello, or violin?

[Machtimus]

well you say "people play them just fine"...yes thats true, there are violinists out there who are the violin version (talent wise) of tim reynolds or something. nonetheless, its easier to learn guitar, just like you said its for the lazy man. so basically i just want to say that i think(i dont know for sure cuz i cant play the violin or anything) that violin/classic instruments are probably harder to learn than guitar....anyone with experience who can actually verify/reject this?

yes a violin is MUCH harder to learn. There's also more than just hitting the right note there's a lot of technique involved in both hands. Violin (and it's sisters) are defianelty instruments one would get lessons for too. A book would be hard to describe the techniques and such, a teacher could show it much easier. etc etc.....

whats easier, cello, or violin?

it really depends on the person. both require different hand positions and such. violin, your arms will get tired at first and such, but you get used to it. the tuning of the violin is also a tad more familiar for guitarists/bassist. the cello has a more comfortable hand positioning (imho). The cello is also a bit easier to get the right pitch.

i llike cello better though

[gumbomadness]

well you say "people play them just fine"...yes thats true, there are violinists out there who are the violin version (talent wise) of tim reynolds or something. nonetheless, its easier to learn guitar, just like you said its for the lazy man. so basically i just want to say that i think(i dont know for sure cuz i cant play the violin or anything) that violin/classic instruments are probably harder to learn than guitar....anyone with experience who can actually verify/reject this?

yes a violin is MUCH harder to learn. There's also more than just hitting the right note there's a lot of technique involved in both hands. Violin (and it's sisters) are defianelty instruments one would get lessons for too. A book would be hard to describe the techniques and such, a teacher could show it much easier. etc etc.....

whats easier, cello, or violin?

it really depends on the person. both require different hand positions and such. violin, your arms will get tired at first and such, but you get used to it. the tuning of the violin is also a tad more familiar for guitarists/bassist. the cello has a more comfortable hand positioning (imho). The cello is also a bit easier to get the right pitch.

i llike cello better though

you have any good cello mp3s?

[Machtimus]

not on here... i would check out yo yo ma btw. you'll love him

[DMBFan63]

Its no different than learning another skill. It just takes practice. I'm sure its difficult but not as much as you guys are making it sound.

Again think of Violinist and Chelloist.

Violins and Cellos are playing with tremolo almost always. Like learing to play slide, they're not right on the note every time, so tremoloing(sp?) makes it as close as they can get.

[gumbomadness]

do you mean vibrato?