I know keys.. but when i start seeing jargan i don't understand, i just back away from the thread
If thats confusing than perhaps you don't know keys as well as you think you do.
Not to be a dick but the majority of people around here don't know much theory at all. Most of the above posts dont even attempt to answer the question and the only person that did was completely wrong(I hope that was a joke). I can think of a handful of people who at least have a decent grasp on theory and I'm always waiting for more.
I know keys.. but when i start seeing jargan i don't understand, i just back away from the thread
If thats confusing than perhaps you don't know keys as well as you think you do.
Not to be a dick but the majority of people around here don't know much theory at all. Most of the above posts dont even attempt to answer the question and the only person that did was completely wrong(I hope that was a joke). I can think of a handful of people who at least have a decent grasp on theory and I'm always waiting for more.
alright now that i've reread it, i realized I do actually know what you're talking about.. i quickly read through it and it just seemed way over what i know.. now that i actually comprehended it, i understand
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DontplayIdidit wrote:Hello all.
I've read a bunch of threads about guitar theory, and keys of songs, etc...all that info has been very helpful. I know that for the most part, popular songs are in major keys...so I'm getting better at figuring those keys out.
I'm learning some Grateful Dead songs...and they change things up a lot. The verse chords in Touch of Grey are E A B and F#. These chords don't seem to fit into any major key. I've been trying to research this, and I know that there are several different minor keys: Natural, Harmonic, Melodic...blablabla...
I'm going to stop sounding not smart now...my question is general, but might be involved. If a song isn't written in a major key, how the heck do you figure out the key(if it's minor or whatever) and what scales can I use to solo???
My question can't make any sense............
if all four of those chords are major, than they dont fit into any harmonic or melodic minor key.
i hate to tell you buddy, but some songs aren't so simple that you can just take one scale and go to town. you might have to actually *gasp* change keys while soloing!
DontplayIdidit wrote:Hello all.
I've read a bunch of threads about guitar theory, and keys of songs, etc...all that info has been very helpful. I know that for the most part, popular songs are in major keys...so I'm getting better at figuring those keys out.
I'm learning some Grateful Dead songs...and they change things up a lot. The verse chords in Touch of Grey are E A B and F#. These chords don't seem to fit into any major key. I've been trying to research this, and I know that there are several different minor keys: Natural, Harmonic, Melodic...blablabla...
I'm going to stop sounding not smart now...my question is general, but might be involved. If a song isn't written in a major key, how the heck do you figure out the key(if it's minor or whatever) and what scales can I use to solo???
My question can't make any sense............
if all four of those chords are major, than they dont fit into any harmonic or melodic minor key.
i hate to tell you buddy, but some songs aren't so simple that you can just take one scale and go to town. you might have to actually *gasp* change keys while soloing!
I'm new to the whole soloing gig, but I figured that out the other day(a light came on in my head). I would take your *gasp* comment as a joke, but I've read a bunch of your replies to other people's questions in the past. I know your guitar knowledge is scary good, and you have a hard time dumbing it down for newer players.
You could have said, "hey, just trying changing keys when you solo," and that would have worked too. Trying to pick guitar theory up in 100 different places can be tough, you hear conflicting info.
Anyways, thanks to all the people who posted suggestions. I've got my answer now.
DontplayIdidit wrote:Hello all.
I've read a bunch of threads about guitar theory, and keys of songs, etc...all that info has been very helpful. I know that for the most part, popular songs are in major keys...so I'm getting better at figuring those keys out.
I'm learning some Grateful Dead songs...and they change things up a lot. The verse chords in Touch of Grey are E A B and F#. These chords don't seem to fit into any major key. I've been trying to research this, and I know that there are several different minor keys: Natural, Harmonic, Melodic...blablabla...
I'm going to stop sounding not smart now...my question is general, but might be involved. If a song isn't written in a major key, how the heck do you figure out the key(if it's minor or whatever) and what scales can I use to solo???
My question can't make any sense............
if all four of those chords are major, than they dont fit into any harmonic or melodic minor key.
i hate to tell you buddy, but some songs aren't so simple that you can just take one scale and go to town. you might have to actually *gasp* change keys while soloing!
I'm new to the whole soloing gig, but I figured that out the other day(a light came on in my head). I would take your *gasp* comment as a joke, but I've read a bunch of your replies to other people's questions in the past. I know your guitar knowledge is scary good, and you have a hard time dumbing it down for newer players.
You could have said, "hey, just trying changing keys when you solo," and that would have worked too. Trying to pick guitar theory up in 100 different places can be tough, you hear conflicting info.
Anyways, thanks to all the people who posted suggestions. I've got my answer now.
A few days ago you come to the conclusion that 4 major chords couldn't possibly belong to any major key and now you get it? I'm sorry to inform you that the "lightbulb" that came on is one of about a 1000 that you'll need to really get it. Don't get complacent.
I still get a kick out the fact that I answer the question and FJ is the one with "scary" amounts of knowledge (which I don't deny). I used to get pissed but now it's just amusing.
DontplayIdidit wrote:Hello all.
I've read a bunch of threads about guitar theory, and keys of songs, etc...all that info has been very helpful. I know that for the most part, popular songs are in major keys...so I'm getting better at figuring those keys out.
I'm learning some Grateful Dead songs...and they change things up a lot. The verse chords in Touch of Grey are E A B and F#. These chords don't seem to fit into any major key. I've been trying to research this, and I know that there are several different minor keys: Natural, Harmonic, Melodic...blablabla...
I'm going to stop sounding not smart now...my question is general, but might be involved. If a song isn't written in a major key, how the heck do you figure out the key(if it's minor or whatever) and what scales can I use to solo???
My question can't make any sense............
if all four of those chords are major, than they dont fit into any harmonic or melodic minor key.
i hate to tell you buddy, but some songs aren't so simple that you can just take one scale and go to town. you might have to actually *gasp* change keys while soloing!
I'm new to the whole soloing gig, but I figured that out the other day(a light came on in my head). I would take your *gasp* comment as a joke, but I've read a bunch of your replies to other people's questions in the past. I know your guitar knowledge is scary good, and you have a hard time dumbing it down for newer players.
You could have said, "hey, just trying changing keys when you solo," and that would have worked too. Trying to pick guitar theory up in 100 different places can be tough, you hear conflicting info.
Anyways, thanks to all the people who posted suggestions. I've got my answer now.
A few days ago you come to the conclusion that 4 major chords couldn't possibly belong to any major key and now you get it? I'm sorry to inform you that the "lightbulb" that came on is one of about a 1000 that you'll need to really get it. Don't get complacent.
I still get a kick out the fact that I answer the question and FJ is the one with "scary" amounts of knowledge (which I don't deny). I used to get pissed but now it's just amusing.
i love you MWR, lets make babies
and im too lazy to explain all these things again, when i did it almost a year ago, besides you answer em before i get a chance to anyway
DontplayIdidit wrote:Hello all.
I've read a bunch of threads about guitar theory, and keys of songs, etc...all that info has been very helpful. I know that for the most part, popular songs are in major keys...so I'm getting better at figuring those keys out.
I'm learning some Grateful Dead songs...and they change things up a lot. The verse chords in Touch of Grey are E A B and F#. These chords don't seem to fit into any major key. I've been trying to research this, and I know that there are several different minor keys: Natural, Harmonic, Melodic...blablabla...
I'm going to stop sounding not smart now...my question is general, but might be involved. If a song isn't written in a major key, how the heck do you figure out the key(if it's minor or whatever) and what scales can I use to solo???
My question can't make any sense............
if all four of those chords are major, than they dont fit into any harmonic or melodic minor key.
i hate to tell you buddy, but some songs aren't so simple that you can just take one scale and go to town. you might have to actually *gasp* change keys while soloing!
I'm new to the whole soloing gig, but I figured that out the other day(a light came on in my head). I would take your *gasp* comment as a joke, but I've read a bunch of your replies to other people's questions in the past. I know your guitar knowledge is scary good, and you have a hard time dumbing it down for newer players.
You could have said, "hey, just trying changing keys when you solo," and that would have worked too. Trying to pick guitar theory up in 100 different places can be tough, you hear conflicting info.
Anyways, thanks to all the people who posted suggestions. I've got my answer now.
A few days ago you come to the conclusion that 4 major chords couldn't possibly belong to any major key and now you get it? I'm sorry to inform you that the "lightbulb" that came on is one of about a 1000 that you'll need to really get it. Don't get complacent.
I still get a kick out the fact that I answer the question and FJ is the one with "scary" amounts of knowledge (which I don't deny). I used to get pissed but now it's just amusing.
i love you MWR, lets make babies
and im too lazy to explain all these things again, when i did it almost a year ago, besides you answer em before i get a chance to anyway
I love you too man.
I know you've had to deal with these questions contless times so I jump in there when I'm patient enough. I no longer anwswer the "what are some good scales to learn" question, there's a few others too and the list is growing.
DontplayIdidit wrote:Hello all.
I've read a bunch of threads about guitar theory, and keys of songs, etc...all that info has been very helpful. I know that for the most part, popular songs are in major keys...so I'm getting better at figuring those keys out.
I'm learning some Grateful Dead songs...and they change things up a lot. The verse chords in Touch of Grey are E A B and F#. These chords don't seem to fit into any major key. I've been trying to research this, and I know that there are several different minor keys: Natural, Harmonic, Melodic...blablabla...
I'm going to stop sounding not smart now...my question is general, but might be involved. If a song isn't written in a major key, how the heck do you figure out the key(if it's minor or whatever) and what scales can I use to solo???
My question can't make any sense............
if all four of those chords are major, than they dont fit into any harmonic or melodic minor key.
i hate to tell you buddy, but some songs aren't so simple that you can just take one scale and go to town. you might have to actually *gasp* change keys while soloing!
I'm new to the whole soloing gig, but I figured that out the other day(a light came on in my head). I would take your *gasp* comment as a joke, but I've read a bunch of your replies to other people's questions in the past. I know your guitar knowledge is scary good, and you have a hard time dumbing it down for newer players.
You could have said, "hey, just trying changing keys when you solo," and that would have worked too. Trying to pick guitar theory up in 100 different places can be tough, you hear conflicting info.
Anyways, thanks to all the people who posted suggestions. I've got my answer now.
A few days ago you come to the conclusion that 4 major chords couldn't possibly belong to any major key and now you get it? I'm sorry to inform you that the "lightbulb" that came on is one of about a 1000 that you'll need to really get it. Don't get complacent.
I still get a kick out the fact that I answer the question and FJ is the one with "scary" amounts of knowledge (which I don't deny). I used to get pissed but now it's just amusing.
i love you MWR, lets make babies
and im too lazy to explain all these things again, when i did it almost a year ago, besides you answer em before i get a chance to anyway
I love you too man.
I know you've had to deal with these questions contless times so I jump in there when I'm patient enough. I no longer anwswer the "what are some good scales to learn" question, there's a few others too and the list is growing.
If you guys are so tired of helping people who are trying to learn guitar and guitar theory, then why are you on these boards? You’re making it seem like it’s a pain in the ass to help people who don’t get it. You say stuff like “I know you have to deal with these questions…â€
DontplayIdidit wrote:Hello all.
I've read a bunch of threads about guitar theory, and keys of songs, etc...all that info has been very helpful. I know that for the most part, popular songs are in major keys...so I'm getting better at figuring those keys out.
I'm learning some Grateful Dead songs...and they change things up a lot. The verse chords in Touch of Grey are E A B and F#. These chords don't seem to fit into any major key. I've been trying to research this, and I know that there are several different minor keys: Natural, Harmonic, Melodic...blablabla...
I'm going to stop sounding not smart now...my question is general, but might be involved. If a song isn't written in a major key, how the heck do you figure out the key(if it's minor or whatever) and what scales can I use to solo???
My question can't make any sense............
if all four of those chords are major, than they dont fit into any harmonic or melodic minor key.
i hate to tell you buddy, but some songs aren't so simple that you can just take one scale and go to town. you might have to actually *gasp* change keys while soloing!
I'm new to the whole soloing gig, but I figured that out the other day(a light came on in my head). I would take your *gasp* comment as a joke, but I've read a bunch of your replies to other people's questions in the past. I know your guitar knowledge is scary good, and you have a hard time dumbing it down for newer players.
You could have said, "hey, just trying changing keys when you solo," and that would have worked too. Trying to pick guitar theory up in 100 different places can be tough, you hear conflicting info.
Anyways, thanks to all the people who posted suggestions. I've got my answer now.
A few days ago you come to the conclusion that 4 major chords couldn't possibly belong to any major key and now you get it? I'm sorry to inform you that the "lightbulb" that came on is one of about a 1000 that you'll need to really get it. Don't get complacent.
I still get a kick out the fact that I answer the question and FJ is the one with "scary" amounts of knowledge (which I don't deny). I used to get pissed but now it's just amusing.
i love you MWR, lets make babies
and im too lazy to explain all these things again, when i did it almost a year ago, besides you answer em before i get a chance to anyway
I love you too man.
I know you've had to deal with these questions contless times so I jump in there when I'm patient enough. I no longer anwswer the "what are some good scales to learn" question, there's a few others too and the list is growing.
If you guys are so tired of helping people who are trying to learn guitar and guitar theory, then why are you on these boards? You’re making it seem like it’s a pain in the ass to help people who don’t get it. You say stuff like “I know you have to deal with these questions…â€
DontplayIdidit wrote:Hello all.
I've read a bunch of threads about guitar theory, and keys of songs, etc...all that info has been very helpful. I know that for the most part, popular songs are in major keys...so I'm getting better at figuring those keys out.
I'm learning some Grateful Dead songs...and they change things up a lot. The verse chords in Touch of Grey are E A B and F#. These chords don't seem to fit into any major key. I've been trying to research this, and I know that there are several different minor keys: Natural, Harmonic, Melodic...blablabla...
I'm going to stop sounding not smart now...my question is general, but might be involved. If a song isn't written in a major key, how the heck do you figure out the key(if it's minor or whatever) and what scales can I use to solo???
My question can't make any sense............
if all four of those chords are major, than they dont fit into any harmonic or melodic minor key.
i hate to tell you buddy, but some songs aren't so simple that you can just take one scale and go to town. you might have to actually *gasp* change keys while soloing!
I'm new to the whole soloing gig, but I figured that out the other day(a light came on in my head). I would take your *gasp* comment as a joke, but I've read a bunch of your replies to other people's questions in the past. I know your guitar knowledge is scary good, and you have a hard time dumbing it down for newer players.
You could have said, "hey, just trying changing keys when you solo," and that would have worked too. Trying to pick guitar theory up in 100 different places can be tough, you hear conflicting info.
Anyways, thanks to all the people who posted suggestions. I've got my answer now.
A few days ago you come to the conclusion that 4 major chords couldn't possibly belong to any major key and now you get it? I'm sorry to inform you that the "lightbulb" that came on is one of about a 1000 that you'll need to really get it. Don't get complacent.
I still get a kick out the fact that I answer the question and FJ is the one with "scary" amounts of knowledge (which I don't deny). I used to get pissed but now it's just amusing.
i love you MWR, lets make babies
and im too lazy to explain all these things again, when i did it almost a year ago, besides you answer em before i get a chance to anyway
I love you too man.
I know you've had to deal with these questions contless times so I jump in there when I'm patient enough. I no longer anwswer the "what are some good scales to learn" question, there's a few others too and the list is growing.
If you guys are so tired of helping people who are trying to learn guitar and guitar theory, then why are you on these boards? You’re making it seem like it’s a pain in the ass to help people who don’t get it. You say stuff like “I know you have to deal with these questions…â€
MWR wrote:
Isn't it enought that your questioned was answered-AND IT WAS ANSWERED!
There's so much misinformation on these boards that you should be glad there are people who take the time to answer your inane question, which by the way we have answered COUTLESS times before. I take theory seriously while the majority of people here don't and thats why my fuse is so short.
Reading back on my post I don't see how I belittled you at all.
MWR wrote:
Isn't it enought that your questioned was answered-AND IT WAS ANSWERED!
There's so much misinformation on these boards that you should be glad there are people who take the time to answer your inane question, which by the way we have answered COUTLESS times before. I take theory seriously while the majority of people here don't and thats why my fuse is so short.
Reading back on my post I don't see how I belittled you at all.
belittled
I said reading back on my post--the one that got him pissed in the first place dipshit.
