The Mystery Of The Lillywhite Sessions

json · Post by **json** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 9:16 am

DJR07 wrote:hmm, jason from the seattle area eh...

Huh?!?!?

littlefriend · Post by **littlefriend** » Sat Sep 23, 2006 4:50 pm

json wrote:
DJR07 wrote:hmm, jason from the seattle area eh...
Huh?!?!?

Don't ask.

DJR · Post by **DJR** » Sat Sep 23, 2006 4:55 pm

taparoo · Post by **taparoo** » Sat Dec 23, 2006 5:22 pm

Reading through this again because I've got some time on my hands. Really interesting stuff.

Rolling Stone wrote:But how did Tom Griffin get his copy, the one he copied and sent to Knapp? Griffin lets this much be known: His friend's family owns a house in Colorado. Sometime last winter, someone in the Dave Matthews Band vacationed at that house. According to Griffin, the DMB member allowed his friend to hear the Summer disc, and, at some point -- presumably when the DMB member hit the slopes -- the disc was "borrowed" and burned. Griffin's friend then returned to St. Bonaventure excited, if somewhat unaware of the white rhino he'd bagged. Minutes later, Griffin made his own copy.

That just doesn't add up. at all. First of all, why would someone from DMB tease a fan by letting them listen to it, knowing how coveted that material was among the dmb fanbase. And why would somebody from DMB trust that the disc wouldn't be stolen while he was gone. To me, that story seems totally made up. I'm still incredibly interested in how they got leaked in the first place. Maybe Lillywhite leaked them feeling some anger toward DMB for leaving him...?

a1075dd63aa12 · Post by **a1075dd63aa12** » Sat Dec 23, 2006 9:35 pm

taparoo wrote:Reading through this again because I've got some time on my hands. Really interesting stuff.

Rolling Stone wrote:But how did Tom Griffin get his copy, the one he copied and sent to Knapp? Griffin lets this much be known: His friend's family owns a house in Colorado. Sometime last winter, someone in the Dave Matthews Band vacationed at that house. According to Griffin, the DMB member allowed his friend to hear the Summer disc, and, at some point -- presumably when the DMB member hit the slopes -- the disc was "borrowed" and burned. Griffin's friend then returned to St. Bonaventure excited, if somewhat unaware of the white rhino he'd bagged. Minutes later, Griffin made his own copy.
That just doesn't add up. at all. First of all, why would someone from DMB tease a fan by letting them listen to it, knowing how coveted that material was among the dmb fanbase. And why would somebody from DMB trust that the disc wouldn't be stolen while he was gone. To me, that story seems totally made up. I'm still incredibly interested in how they got leaked in the first place. Maybe Lillywhite leaked them feeling some anger toward DMB for leaving him...?

that is extreeemely unlikely. that would destroy his credibility within the music community and is something a professional wouldnt do.

Grachi · Post by **Grachi** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 1:19 am

http://www.antsmarching.org/columns/col ... olumnid=39

i just saw this on ants and though I would post it here.

It's really long but really interesting. It seems pretty creditable too the guy took the time to cite a bunch of the information he put in the article.

It's not from the forums either hehe

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Really good read on the progression of Lillywhite Sessions to today and, in the authors opinion (which I can agree with mostly) where the band is today because of those times.

GSR · Post by **GSR** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 4:38 am

Grachi wrote:http://www.antsmarching.org/columns/col ... olumnid=39

i just saw this on ants and though I would post it here.

It's really long but really interesting. It seems pretty creditable too the guy took the time to cite a bunch of the information he put in the article.

It's not from the forums either hehe .

Really good read on the progression of Lillywhite Sessions to today and, in the authors opinion (which I can agree with mostly) where the band is today because of those times.

I'm about half way through it. This is intense.

GSR · Post by **GSR** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 4:56 am

Wow, that has to be THE dmb find of the year.

I believe just about all of it.

Must have been a crazy time to be a DMB fan.

Nitro1515 · Post by **Nitro1515** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 5:07 am

That article is good for people who weren't around the scene back then when it was all taking place. To people that were around all of that is common knowledge. He just took bits and pieces from articles and interviews.

taparoo · Post by **taparoo** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 5:12 am

I'm about half way through. This is a really good read. I'm afraid I wasn't a fan of DMB 'back then' so this is really interesting. I love this:

It also had that Space Between success, but the people who listen to The Space Between don’t buy future albums, go to shows, or care about anything else DMB related. [Sidebar: a friend’s wife had The Space Between on her Ipod in 2001. I asked her if she liked DMB. She replied, “no, I can’t stand them, but I like this song.” Jump ahead to 2006, my friend, his wife, and my wife and I are going to dinner. Crush is playing on my CD when we pick them up. She complains out loud, “turn that shit off”. That is the fan of Everyday]

GSR · Post by **GSR** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 5:30 am

Nitro1515 wrote:That article is good for people who weren't around the scene back then when it was all taking place. To people that were around all of that is common knowledge. He just took bits and pieces from articles and interviews.

Yeah, for me, who wasn't around, it's like the greatest thing ever.

taparoo · Post by **taparoo** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 5:36 am

Wow. This is actually the first time I've ever heard of the "Demo #2". I would be really interested in giving that a listen if anyone would feel so inclined to point me to where I could hear those tracks. I have Build You A House, but I had no idea it was from those sessions. I'm really interested in hearing the prelude to GIGone.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 10:34 am

good read

sunglassesatnight · Post by **sunglassesatnight** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 10:37 am

I had forgotten the whole bit about the fake Lillywhite email. The rest I pretty well remembered.

carter29 · Post by **carter29** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 10:50 am

wow that was a great read. I wasnt nearly as hardcore fan back in those days (also didnt have a computer at home). I can see why the hardcore's hate everyday SO much. Its much better than stand up but probably 10 times more disapointing considering it followed BTCS.

I have crazy hope based on no evidence that the next album will have more heart in it. They may not reach (musically) what they've done in the past but if dmb can release one or two "Busted Stuff-quality" records before they retire I will be happy. I dont want the second half of their career to be a major black eye on what I think is the greatest band ever.