Nitro1515 wrote:Anybody else incredibly intrigued by what happened during these sessions? I would love to know what actually went down inside the studio for those 3 months, and the following tour. I wonder how it went from something so good, to something that basically tore the band apart. (The rumor is they did break up at the end of the summer tour in 2000 that year. Which was why Dave went to go work with Ballard in the first place.) Anyway, these have got to be some of the most, if not the most moving pieces of work this band has ever done and probably will ever do. If finished it would have surpassed BTCS, and in all honesty, to me anyway, it is its equal even in its unfinished state. Well those are just some of my thoughts on the whole ordeal, I would like to get a good conversation going since this is probably my favorite thing to talk about in terms of DMB.
dont feel like reading the whole thread. but I would say track for track it is on par with BTCS if not a notch higher. As an album BTCS is leaps and bounds ahead.
taparoo wrote:So, since LWS is unreleased, the only way to get the entire album would be to download it off a peer-to-peer sharing client like kazaa or something? Or does somebody have the tracks and would be willing to yousendit them?
And if Lillywhite/DMB doesn't want the record leaked, then RELEASE IT!!!
That makes absolutely no sense at all. Your solution to them not wanting people to hear it is to release it? I'm pretty sure DMB isn't really upset about the fact that they are missing record sales. I think they are more upset that something they feel is sub-par is out there that they aren't happy with people having.
What you said does make sense, them being the craftsmen, the artists. After reading so much about the LWS, it would be awesome to release the album. But you are right, DMB should release what they feel fit to be released. It would just be great if they would release the thing.
Wait, what are you guys talking about? You do realize the Lillywhite Sessions were leaked and released over 5 years ago right. If your talking about an official release then forget it, Busted Stuff covered that, plus they will never work with Lillywhite again so the SHN's we got in 2002 and the subsequent remasters of those that have sprung up this year are the best quality releases we will ever see of these sessions.
Yeah I know. My point was regarding what he originally said that they should just release Lillywhite Sessions, and I was replying about my take on why they were upset with the leak of the Lillywhite sessions.
taparoo wrote:So, since LWS is unreleased, the only way to get the entire album would be to download it off a peer-to-peer sharing client like kazaa or something? Or does somebody have the tracks and would be willing to yousendit them?
And if Lillywhite/DMB doesn't want the record leaked, then RELEASE IT!!!
That makes absolutely no sense at all. Your solution to them not wanting people to hear it is to release it? I'm pretty sure DMB isn't really upset about the fact that they are missing record sales. I think they are more upset that something they feel is sub-par is out there that they aren't happy with people having.
What you said does make sense, them being the craftsmen, the artists. After reading so much about the LWS, it would be awesome to release the album. But you are right, DMB should release what they feel fit to be released. It would just be great if they would release the thing.
Wait, what are you guys talking about? You do realize the Lillywhite Sessions were leaked and released over 5 years ago right. If your talking about an official release then forget it, Busted Stuff covered that, plus they will never work with Lillywhite again so the SHN's we got in 2002 and the subsequent remasters of those that have sprung up this year are the best quality releases we will ever see of these sessions.
Yeah I know. My point was regarding what he originally said that they should just release Lillywhite Sessions, and I was replying about my take on why they were upset with the leak of the Lillywhite sessions.
Nitro1515 wrote:Anybody else incredibly intrigued by what happened during these sessions? I would love to know what actually went down inside the studio for those 3 months, and the following tour. I wonder how it went from something so good, to something that basically tore the band apart. (The rumor is they did break up at the end of the summer tour in 2000 that year. Which was why Dave went to go work with Ballard in the first place.) Anyway, these have got to be some of the most, if not the most moving pieces of work this band has ever done and probably will ever do. If finished it would have surpassed BTCS, and in all honesty, to me anyway, it is its equal even in its unfinished state. Well those are just some of my thoughts on the whole ordeal, I would like to get a good conversation going since this is probably my favorite thing to talk about in terms of DMB.
dont feel like reading the whole thread. but I would say track for track it is on par with BTCS if not a notch higher. As an album BTCS is leaps and bounds ahead.
just my opinion though.
Oh I agree, BTCS is a near perfect album. I just think that with full production and completed lyrics on certain tracks the LWS would have been on par because like you said track for track it can certaintly match up.
I downloaded the first and second remastered ones (thanks Gianni), but I deleted the first when getting the second. However, it seems as if on my SUAD the bass drops off. I had posted this before and forgot to check back, but does anyone have the original remaster before the second one?
Nitro1515 wrote:Anybody else incredibly intrigued by what happened during these sessions? I would love to know what actually went down inside the studio for those 3 months, and the following tour. I wonder how it went from something so good, to something that basically tore the band apart. (The rumor is they did break up at the end of the summer tour in 2000 that year. Which was why Dave went to go work with Ballard in the first place.) Anyway, these have got to be some of the most, if not the most moving pieces of work this band has ever done and probably will ever do. If finished it would have surpassed BTCS, and in all honesty, to me anyway, it is its equal even in its unfinished state. Well those are just some of my thoughts on the whole ordeal, I would like to get a good conversation going since this is probably my favorite thing to talk about in terms of DMB.
dont feel like reading the whole thread. but I would say track for track it is on par with BTCS if not a notch higher. As an album BTCS is leaps and bounds ahead.
just my opinion though.
Oh I agree, BTCS is a near perfect album. I just think that with full production and completed lyrics on certain tracks the LWS would have been on par because like you said track for track it can certaintly match up.
I just dont see it being as perfectly transitioned and it having that over theme like BTCS had. I guess Tim and bela are necessary
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Random movie quote to make you seem hip and "with it": The food court is downstairs. The cookie stand is upstairs. It's not like we're talking quantum physics here.
Random movie quote to make you seem hip and "with it": The food court is downstairs. The cookie stand is upstairs. It's not like we're talking quantum physics here.
