A new idea for a contest!!

eclektik_rhythmz · Unread post by **eclektik_rhythmz** » Tue Feb 18, 2003 1:13 pm

I was thinking this forum seems to have a lot of contests dedicated to doing dave matthews covers but WHY NOT have a contest where we all post an original song and let the board vote.
As with that I was thinking there will need to be 2 different contests 1 for original music with guitar and lyrics and the 2nd will be just music aka guitar. Also for rules we can figure those out if this idea takes off. But one thing is for sure for every entry should be 1 person with only 1 guitar b/c its not fair to those who don't have access to mixing equipment, being talented on lead or having a friend that is a bomb lead player.
Well let me know what u think,
J.T.

firedancer86 · Unread post by **firedancer86** » Tue Feb 18, 2003 1:16 pm

while this has a lot of good ideas in it, can you really judge originals???

that is the whole idea of competing on covers, because some cannot write their own stuff, and we would have no criteria in which to judge them against each other...

good ideas, maybe it will work out dude !

eclektik_rhythmz · Unread post by **eclektik_rhythmz** » Tue Feb 18, 2003 1:23 pm

well i'd like to talk to u further about this fire. My AIM is thinkncreate. IM me and we can talk about this ideas but i think it could work.

cheers,
j.t.

firedancer86 · Unread post by **firedancer86** » Tue Feb 18, 2003 1:25 pm

eclektik_rhythmz wrote:well i'd like to talk to u further about this fire. My AIM is thinkncreate. IM me and we can talk about this ideas but i think it could work.

cheers,
j.t.

hehe...i would love to, it's just that i havn't reinstalled it (have had problems) since my COMP crashed a few months ago...i will see what i can do :wink:

cave_cricket · Unread post by **cave_cricket** » Tue Feb 18, 2003 1:37 pm

I think that this would be a time bomb waiting to happen. I mean it's so hard to say who's original is best. It will be comparing apples to oranges. Some may be more rock some techno, some folk some jazz some everything.

Plus who's to say that one persons creativity surpasses the others. It's not fair. While someone may be quite content with a D-C-G progresion someone may have a more technical guitar line.

Somone's lyrics may have some meaning to them but when outsiders read into them and say that they can't comete with others might actually hurt.

You could always say which you like better but it is hard to determine who's is the best.

When we compare covers we are all on the same field. No one's creativity is on the line. We are playing with the same tools (I don't mean effects and shit..that is another issue :lol:

)

Anyway..while I see the good intentions in an origianl contest I don't think it would be that fair.

Peace,

CPTino3001 · Unread post by **CPTino3001** » Tue Feb 18, 2003 1:55 pm

Judging originals would be purley subjective and probably wouldn't be as fair as a cover contest in the true spirit of an honest competition...

firedancer86 · Unread post by **firedancer86** » Tue Feb 18, 2003 1:58 pm

even still...it would be fun for craps and snickering...

eclektik_rhythmz · Unread post by **eclektik_rhythmz** » Tue Feb 18, 2003 1:59 pm

point well taken cave but i still have say that i think it could be fun b/c those who would enter could find out if their stuff is appealing to an audience that can comment.

i know some ppl might say some ignorant shit about ppl's music but i like many others have posted my originals to get feedback and some ppl respond but no one is down right mean and this is based off of posting on many different boards including nondmb music boards.

So instead of calling 1 person's material better than another's. We can say whose music was the most appealing to everyone on the board. And as for the different genres i think ppl on this board r open minded so why even categorize it?

I know some of my songs r more rock while another is country and still others borderline on the heavy side of the spectrum. We r musicians, we can compete in battle of the bands SO what is the difference between competitions like that and the one i'm proposing?

Sorry i got a little long winded and i am not trying to start an argument but i just wanted to elaborate why i propsed this competition..

Cheers,
Keep up the good work,
J.T.
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<---My crazy eyes! [/quote]

cave_cricket · Unread post by **cave_cricket** » Tue Feb 18, 2003 2:00 pm

firedancer86 wrote:even still...it would be fun for craps and snickering...

or even poops and laughs... :roll:

gravedigger · Unread post by **gravedigger** » Tue Feb 18, 2003 2:02 pm

firedancer86 wrote:even still...it would be fun for craps and snickering...

or even just for steamers and lol'ing (

) anyway, yeah I'd probably throw something in to an original contest. frickin' Tico will win everyone we have though. not that there's anything wrong with that.

cave_cricket · Unread post by **cave_cricket** » Tue Feb 18, 2003 2:10 pm

eclektik_rhythmz wrote:point well taken cave but i still have say that i think it could be fun b/c those who would enter could find out if their stuff is appealing to an audience that can comment.

i know some ppl might say some ignorant shit about ppl's music but i like many others have posted my originals to get feedback and some ppl respond but no one is down right mean and this is based off of posting on many different boards including nondmb music boards.

So instead of calling 1 person's material better than another's. We can say whose music was the most appealing to everyone on the board. And as for the different genres i think ppl on this board r open minded so why even categorize it?

I know some of my songs r more rock while another is country and still others borderline on the heavy side of the spectrum. We r musicians, we can compete in battle of the bands SO what is the difference between competitions like that and the one i'm proposing?

Sorry i got a little long winded and i am not trying to start an argument but i just wanted to elaborate why i propsed this competition..

Cheers,
Keep up the good work,
J.T.
<---My crazy eyes!

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I'm not taking your ideas as an insult. I lieka good debate. This isn't even really a debate just a discussion.

You say let's find out who's original is more appealing. Well, the people that are here and will actually post a comment (based on the numbers that did in the last competition) are very few. Maybe a dozen or so. So it doens't really give an accurate portrayal of who's song is best. Or who's would be more appealing to a larger audience.

When we're dealing with covers, not as much will be at stake. The person performing it did not write it. Therefore they can easily discard any negative reamarks to it (agian not saying that people say many negative remarks).

But, if somone enters a song that they worked on then their own prodect is on the line. I feel it is 183% ok to post your cover and ask for critiques on where it may be going wrong but to pit a song of one member against another just seems to have too much potential for something bad to happen.

I wouldn't feel comfortable, myself, to say "Jim's" is better than "Bob's" or "Bob's" sounded better than "Jim's". I can't disregard any becasue that sound isn't to my liking because it could be to the liking of 12 other people. Then who is right? The 12 or myself? No one can say.

So, I just feel that we should keep the contests to just covers and the boards open to critiquing of originals.

My $.02 - it's Canadian so not worth that much!

Peace,

johntherevelator · Unread post by **johntherevelator** » Tue Feb 18, 2003 4:36 pm

i dont like the idea of an original contest

some people put a lot of work into their own songs and im sure feelings would be hurt more easily when comparing works straight from peoples minds, which have no basis for comparison

just my 0.02$

DaveKenneysBand · Unread post by **DaveKenneysBand** » Wed Feb 19, 2003 12:09 am

I would like to do that, but maybe not as a competition. It would be good to hear what people make though. Maybe we should have people put them up on a thread and have opinions. Just a thought.

firedancer86 · Unread post by **firedancer86** » Wed Feb 19, 2003 7:49 am

DaveKenneysBand wrote:I would like to do that, but maybe not as a competition. It would be good to hear what people make though. Maybe we should have people put them up on a thread and have opinions. Just a thought.

well that is just posting your own MP3...that is what we have been doing since...well, i don't know

juineaux · Unread post by **juineaux** » Wed Feb 19, 2003 2:47 pm

Well im not sure about a contest either, but I think it would be cool if we all wrote a song together and mixed it into one final track or differnent groups of people could compete, but I personally dont want to bash any one persons songwriting, bacause who am i to say someone sucks.
good idea in theory though-

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